Cheapest 10mm anchor chain?

[R.Ems]

Hello all. My anchor chain was stored in my car which was stolen, it was 40m of 10mm. Unknown spec, but nothing fancy.. I am wondering where to buy a replacement, based Solent area but can drive to collect.
Oddly enough I have never bought new chain before. Many thanks.

 

[Graham376]

Hello all. My anchor chain was stored in my car which was stolen, it was 40m of 10mm. Unknown spec, but nothing fancy.. I am wondering where to buy a replacement, based Solent area but can drive to collect.
Oddly enough I have never bought new chain before. Many thanks.

If using a windlass you need to know the spec as 10mm ISO and DIN have different link sizes. Gypsy is usually marked on side with chain size/spec.

 

[andsarkit]

I found EYE Marine trading as BoatGearDirect to be the cheapest I could find. BGD. I was buying only 6mm G40.
Jimmy Green Marine also do a selection of chain.

 

[Plum]

Hello all. My anchor chain was stored in my car which was stolen, it was 40m of 10mm. Unknown spec, but nothing fancy.. I am wondering where to buy a replacement, based Solent area but can drive to collect.
Oddly enough I have never bought new chain before. Many thanks.

Sorry to hear that bad news. As others have said, ensure you get the correct ISO or DIN spec. I got my last lot 3 years ago at a good price with free delivery from here 21mtr x 10mm Chain Offcut - Calibrated Galvanised - Marine Scene

www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

 

[Chris CJ]

i bought code 40 8mm chain from marine super store near port Solent at a good price , did weigh the car down a bit

 

[Chris CJ]

i bought code 40 8mm from Marine Super Store at Port Solent at a good price , did weigh the car down quite a bit 80m worth

 

[Davy_S]

You doubled the load! then edited it!

 

[Tradewinds]

Where can you get G40 3/8" calibrated chain in the UK?

Edit: my windlass is a Lighthouse 1501 (USA) hence the non-metric chain. I'm still waiting their answer as to whether they do a 10mm gypsy. I suspect not.

 

[R.Ems]

Cheers for the helpful answers which I will follow up.

 

[jwilson]

3 years ago my anchor chain was getting rusty after about 12 years. I investigated regalvanising, but in the end Boat Gear Direct supplied me with 40 metres of calibrated 10mm chain at a fractionally lower price than getting my old chain regalvanised, once you added in transportation costs to the Midands and back. At at the time I was slightly worried about the quality of the galvanising given that the price was very good, as I have bought cheap chain from other suppliers for non-critical use that rusted quickly. So far the BGD chain seems fine. It was delivered on a mini-pallet.

 

[Neeves]

Where can you get G40 3/8" calibrated chain in the UK?

Edit: my windlass is a Lighthouse 1501 (USA) hence the non-metric chain. I'm still waiting their answer as to whether they do a 10mm gypsy. I suspect not.

Send an email direct to CMP in Canada, you may find the website under the brand of the chain. Its called Titian chain (you want Titan owned by CMP not Titan Chain in Oz). They make all the different chain specifications in China, including 3/8th". To put CMP into context they make the Rocna anchors. Ask the if the have stock of 3/8th", preferably in the UK, but maybe Europe. You other option is to contact Peerless in America, who obviously make 3/8th" and ask if they have any stock in Europe, though their stock will be in Germany.

Your other option is to buy a new gypsy from Lighthouse (which are gorgeous windlass) but pricey being made from stainless. If you do decide that the new gyspy is the sensible route than consider downsizing your chain to high tensile 8mm. The chain will have the strength of 10mm but will, obviously, be lighter, take up less room but you may need a better snubber. Personally I find many people oversize chain unnecessarily. I arranged supply of HT 8mm chain for an Ovni 43 downsizing from 10mm and earlier supplied 8mm HT chain for a 50' cat replacing the recommended 10mm. As we speak I'm arranging production of an HT 8mm chain (130m) for a member here on YBW, on a circumnavigation, downsizing from 10mm to HT 8mm. They happen to be in Australia. The chain will arrive for processing - tomorrow. They need to replace their windlass, it seized, so the coincidental timing of new windlass and new chain was advantageous for them. I have a French couple, also circumnavigating, making their way toward Sydney now. They replaced their 8mm with 6mm HT, or will replace - their new rode is waiting for them to arrive in my workshop. They retreive by hand 6mm will make it much easier for them. If you recall a Spade anchor I re-galvanised (I had a thread on it) - it was for them and galvanised at the same time as the chain (I also added a 10kg Viking for the galvanising). I have been using HT 6mm for 6 years now.

I'm not into shipping so do not know but sending chain to the UK is probably a non starter. But if you were interested I could investigate. I might, I stress the might, be able to piggy back onto pallets of anchors being sent to Jimmy Green. The chain when made here is cheaper than chain from a chandler. To make it clear - I don't sell the chain - you buy it and pay for processing - I'm your unpaid QC manager - and your chain will feature in a future article in a magazine (and I'll ask you for photos for the article). If this were to work I'd source some recycled climbing rope for your new snubber(or bridle) and stick in with the chain. If you want more detail - send me a PM with an email address and I'll send you an article on our chain.

'My' rodes come complete. Each is certificated for strength and galvanising thickness and because they are HT they are supplied with hooks that match, for the snubber, and enlarged links (+ spares) for each end so that you can fit the same sized shackle as you are using now. The galvanising is thicker, 100 micron, than you will get on normal chain, typically 70 micron, and the process produces a harder galvanised coating which is all alloy and contained no free zinc (that soon wears off), Thickness and hardness are more abrasion resistant - thus longer life. If requested the chain will be marked at 10m intervals. The US Navy/Marines use the same process for galvanising of HT chain, for the same reasons, lighter chain, longer life - their specification is 80 microns. they use the chains both for anchoring small craft and for tie downs of military vehicles on landing craft. I'm not aware of anyone coating chain in Europe - but the process is available. You would need to find a reliable raw chain source.

Good luck

Jonathan

 

[R.Ems]

If using a windlass you need to know the spec as 10mm ISO and DIN have different link sizes. Gypsy is usually marked on side with chain size/spec.

Cheers, it is DIN766, and on the off chance, I have posted, asking for used chain, in the 'Wanted' area.

 

[shortjohnsilver]

Yup BGD at Levington will sort you out. Very good.

 

[Tradewinds]

Send an email direct to CMP in Canada, you may find the website under the brand of the chain. Its called Titian chain (you want Titan owned by CMP not Titan Chain in Oz). They make all the different chain specifications in China, including 3/8th". To put CMP into context they make the Rocna anchors. Ask the if the have stock of 3/8th", preferably in the UK, but maybe Europe. You other option is to contact Peerless in America, who obviously make 3/8th" and ask if they have any stock in Europe, though their stock will be in Germany.

Your other option is to buy a new gypsy from Lighthouse (which are gorgeous windlass) but pricey being made from stainless. If you do decide that the new gyspy is the sensible route than consider downsizing your chain to high tensile 8mm. The chain will have the strength of 10mm but will, obviously, be lighter, take up less room but you may need a better snubber. Personally I find many people oversize chain unnecessarily. I arranged supply of HT 8mm chain for an Ovni 43 downsizing from 10mm and earlier supplied 8mm HT chain for a 50' cat replacing the recommended 10mm. As we speak I'm arranging production of an HT 8mm chain (130m) for a member here on YBW, on a circumnavigation, downsizing from 10mm to HT 8mm. They happen to be in Australia. The chain will arrive for processing - tomorrow. They need to replace their windlass, it seized, so the coincidental timing of new windlass and new chain was advantageous for them. I have a French couple, also circumnavigating, making their way toward Sydney now. They replaced their 8mm with 6mm HT, or will replace - their new rode is waiting for them to arrive in my workshop. They retreive by hand 6mm will make it much easier for them. If you recall a Spade anchor I re-galvanised (I had a thread on it) - it was for them and galvanised at the same time as the chain (I also added a 10kg Viking for the galvanising). I have been using HT 6mm for 6 years now.

I'm not into shipping so do not know but sending chain to the UK is probably a non starter. But if you were interested I could investigate. I might, I stress the might, be able to piggy back onto pallets of anchors being sent to Jimmy Green. The chain when made here is cheaper than chain from a chandler. To make it clear - I don't sell the chain - you buy it and pay for processing - I'm your unpaid QC manager - and your chain will feature in a future article in a magazine (and I'll ask you for photos for the article). If this were to work I'd source some recycled climbing rope for your new snubber(or bridle) and stick in with the chain. If you want more detail - send me a PM with an email address and I'll send you an article on our chain.

'My' rodes come complete. Each is certificated for strength and galvanising thickness and because they are HT they are supplied with hooks that match, for the snubber, and enlarged links (+ spares) for each end so that you can fit the same sized shackle as you are using now. The galvanising is thicker, 100 micron, than you will get on normal chain, typically 70 micron, and the process produces a harder galvanised coating which is all alloy and contained no free zinc (that soon wears off), Thickness and hardness are more abrasion resistant - thus longer life. If requested the chain will be marked at 10m intervals. The US Navy/Marines use the same process for galvanising of HT chain, for the same reasons, lighter chain, longer life - their specification is 80 microns. they use the chains both for anchoring small craft and for tie downs of military vehicles on landing craft. I'm not aware of anyone coating chain in Europe - but the process is available. You would need to find a reliable raw chain source.

Good luck

Jonathan

Many thanks for your detailed reply.

 

[Rappey]

I have posted, asking for used chain, in the 'Wanted' area.

I would suggest looking on Facebook marketplace and ebay . I picked up 75 metres of "as new" 10mm for £115 from ebay . Had to collect as couldn't find a courier..

 

[Neeves]

I'd have to wonder why many people would have a reliable length, 40m seems quite short, of 10mm chain (whatever the specification and other sizes) that the chain can be relied on for the security of a vessel. The apparent quality, defined by how its galvanising looks, is little indication of the quality of the raw chain (ie its welds and even the steel from which it is made). New 10mm chain from a chandler here costs around stg18/m (so its not cheap but oddly not much more than 6mm at stg14/m - and does have the backing of the chandler which might be some comfort. I might have thought the stolen chain would have been covered by insurance. And thinking of which I bet the insurer of the vessel would raise an eyebrow or two if learning of the source of the anchor chain.

Jonathan

 

[R.Ems]

I'd have to wonder why many people would have a reliable length, 40m seems quite short, of 10mm chain (whatever the specification and other sizes) that the chain can be relied on for the security of a vessel. The apparent quality, defined by how its galvanising looks, is little indication of the quality of the raw chain (ie its welds and even the steel from which it is made). New 10mm chain from a chandler here costs around stg18/m (so its not cheap but oddly not much more than 6mm at stg14/m - and does have the backing of the chandler which might be some comfort. I might have thought the stolen chain would have been covered by insurance. And thinking of which I bet the insurer of the vessel would raise an eyebrow or two if learning of the source of the anchor chain.

Jonathan

1) I only plan to anchor in water a few metres deep.
2) I will buy from a reputable physical outlet, not Ebay etc. About £11/metre.
3) The chain was not covered by either car or boat insurance.
4) I don't understand your 'raise an eyebrow' comment.

 

[j24jam]

1) I only plan to anchor in water a few metres deep.
2) I will buy from a reputable physical outlet, not Ebay etc. About £11/metre.
3) The chain was not covered by either car or boat insurance.
4) I don't understand your 'raise an eyebrow' comment.

We can sell you new 10mm DIN766 @£8.4/m inc VAT. (Yacht brokerage based at Hamble Point)

PM me if interested.

 

[R.Ems]

We can sell you new 10mm DIN766 @£8.4/m inc VAT. (Yacht brokerage based at Hamble Point)

PM me if interested.

Ok thanks for letting me know, it's a good price.

 

[Neeves]

1) I only plan to anchor in water a few metres deep.
2) I will buy from a reputable physical outlet, not Ebay etc. About £11/metre.
3) The chain was not covered by either car or boat insurance.
4) I don't understand your 'raise an eyebrow' comment.

Unless you venture into water only a few metres deep then you are fine - but where are these waters that are only a few metres deep?

Our house insurance would cover us for a theft, as described.

'Raise an eyebrow' if you buy from a reputable business not an issue but you have requested sources of the cheapest 10mm chain. The cheapest sources are commonly eBay etc etc. What you might have requested is 'cheapest source from a reputable suppllier'. Your anchor and ground tackle are considered a safety device, like your LJs - they are an essential, not a convenience. You should not skimp on LJs nor ground tackle.

Any reputable supplier should be able to offer you sight of a test certificate - if you have any doubts. If they cannot offer a test certificate - how do they know the quality. Its not rocket science.

Most chain is now coming from China, with a few exceptions. Chinese chain in the murky past was not of the best quality but over the last decade and a bit longer quality has been good and consistent - complaints over Chinese chain quality are absent. Any reputable importer of chain will ask for some form of test certificate from his Chinese supplier and it will be part of documentation for each shipment.

Now it could be that for your size of vessel then 8mm G30 chain will be more than adequate, in terms of strength - you then can reduce your level of caution.

I'm involved in 'production' of single rodes. 130m of 8mm is being produced now for a member of YBW. The rodes are supplied with each individual rode tested for UTS, Ultimate Tensile Strength, elongation at break and the galvanising thickness. Its really not difficult.

Jonathan