Champagne tastes, Lambrini budget...

Thank you all. The Vancouver looks fantastic - lovely lines.

As for the much-linked Rassy, i do like the look of it. My main concern is that the owner has provided tonnes of detail about absolutely everything except the actual age of the boat, and the age of the sails!

Hi Admiral Fitzroy

Apologies for missing that bit of vital information out. I have fixed the site.
Isador the HR38 was launched in 1984. The mainsail is in good condition due to the weight of the cloth, full battens and lack of UV exposure, as you can see from the photos, but possibly a bit old (1997). The Genoa is from 2009 I think, and hasn't lost any shape. I wasnt planning on replacing the sails soon if I was keeping the boat. Long term, I was planning on leaving the boat to my kids when I died (not for 30+ years hopefully). The reason for selling, I will probably regret, I am buying a Pogo 1250 launching in July and can't really run 2 boats.

The decks were renovated (some seams replaced and rubber skimmed back to flush), probably since pvb last saw them. Prior to that they were professionally skimmed in 1995 and lost about 1mm since based on the rubber. They are solid teak, not laminate with about 10mm remaining (originally 12mm I am told). The deck core is Divinycell (not Balsa) and was dry when I re-seated a skylight prism last summer. I would expect they will be good for many years, provided they are treated carefully and the rubber is replaced when it fails. I use BAC5 and don't scrub.

The coachroof was polished last week, but I do need to polish the topsides soon.

All of that is best validated by seeing it in person.

The listing on the FB Group [1] has some unsolicited comments from a former crew (the praise was nice to see, but also a bit embarrassing). Also there are some YouTube vidoes taken this year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv4ki-N1asg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGaCBu_h5No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf4Rjk7cjPc

pvb thank you for telling me about this thread this morning.
Graham (A1GSS) thank you for [1], and all the time you put into that group.

Best Regards
Ian
(first post on ybw.com forums, hope it was Ok)



1 https://www.facebook.com/groups/Yachtsandyachybits/
 
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Exactly. What on earth am I drinking then??
Interesting to see how the other half live though.

My comparison is to a modern H-R 372 (which would be the dream). It's about £300k, so my top budget of £70k for a forever boat might as well be Lambrini in comparison! Perhaps I should have said "champagne tastes, own-brand Prosecco budget" to be more precise...
 
My comparison is to a modern H-R 372 (which would be the dream). It's about £300k, so my top budget of £70k for a forever boat might as well be Lambrini in comparison! Perhaps I should have said "champagne tastes, own-brand Prosecco budget" to be more precise...

'Twas only kidding and in truth, I'm only a little bit jealous :rolleyes:

You've not got kids yet so spend it while you can and enjoy!!
 
I'd be tempted by a Hanse 400: Uncluttered decks and a pleasure to sail. Everything leads back to the cockpit, so super safe.

http://yachts.apolloduck.com/advert.phtml?id=387559

It looks very clean but nothing of detail in the specks I would imagine it has done little since its launch in 2008 so with a little spent on it possibly a good buy, I don't know enough about them to make serious comment so is £84K a good price. I do know that the two that I have set foot on were not the best finished boats I have ever seen.
Virtually any boat can be made to be handled from the cockpit if you are prepared to do it nothing unique about it.
 
As far as AWB's go, they are pretty good. The self tacking jib is going to be like marmite: you either love it or hate it. The saloon and galley are laid out very space efficiently and if you want comfort and good handling, they are good value for money. In terms of finish, most I have seen have been at par or slightly better than Bavs.

You could probably knock some money off the £84k - assuming the specs are pretty basic. If distance is not a problem, there are probably some better offerings in the Med.
 
The typhoon looks a nice example, last of the Westerly builds as they went into receivership far the last time.

Fair doos I sniggered a bit at that suggestion but, apologies to Concerto, it does look very nice.

I think the Westerly name might not pitch the right cachet for the OP's boyfriend though.
 
There are plenty of Grand Soleil either 37 or 40s listed that are in or close to budget. If brand is important, that would be where I'd start if the OP wanted something slightly more exciting than a Victoria, but still definitely a cruising boat.
 
I am in the same boat, metaphorically. Looking to change from a Westerly at some point.
These boats are all Scandinavian/Swedish, and have the sort of qualities you may be aspiring to in an HR.

Try looking at an older Baltic.
38DP or 39.
Not sailed one myself, but very solid, I hear.

Or more likely a ScanMar 33, 35, or 40. Even the 33 has an aft cabin, of sorts.
A handful available to see on the South coast at present.

Also Maxi.
Fast and well built, and pretty in my eyes.
1000, 34, and 340 might be smaller than you wish, but would tick all the other boxes I think.
SD Marine on the Hamble have a selection to look at right now. I was there looking on Monday.
You might admire the looks of the 1100's but a little too much money, perhaps.

Best of luck.
 
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Another thought, SheWMBO.

I also visited the HR specialist http://www.transworldyachts.co.uk last week.
Well worth a visit if you are in the Hamble area and almost wedded to the idea of an HR.

They have an HR 34 and a 342 asking around 100k. Both relatively recent, post 2000.
Plus a handful of 36s and a 34 around your price, early 1990's.

Take a bottle of fizz down there and have a good day out.
I dont think your dream is so impossible....
 
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