dylanwinter
Well-Known Member
Caution! - Tough times for honest forumites
This, and PBO are wonderful forums. The honest and open advice I have received here have saved me lots of aggravation and money. There is a sort of cimmunity here.
The expertise and local knowledge has been invaluable to me over the years during my slow journey.
My boat is currently resting in a mud berth on the Humber at a lovely sailing club because I was introduced to the right people by a forumite. I have spent some splendid nights in anchorages recommended by people here.
But this place works on honesty and integrity. Without it we are lost.
Occasionally there is a spat about RNLI funding or RYA training - but it is all honest and open discourse.
Earlier this week there was a thread started from a chap who told a story about how he had been severely msitreated by a yacht broker
it turned into a fairly long thread
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332651
he was posting under the name of Glynny
he was calling for legislation and protection from rogue brokers
he named names
he said that he was an academic with wide sailing experience but looking for his first boat to introduce his family to sailing and was looking at a heap of junk costing £3,500
some of us repsonded offering advice.
His posting seemed a bit odd.... some many of the posts
on here are a bit odd - but I think they are generally honest.
so I had a look at his other postings
He had started a thread in the spring also complaining about another broker
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313166
this time he said that he was looking for a large boat to take disabled children sailing.
Again people took him at face value, extended the hand of friendship, gave him some good and useful advice.
But the links were left there blackening the names of brokers
there was a third thread started that told a different story
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257011
Lots of people use an alias on these fora - often their boat name - nothing wrong with that but they are not hiding anything other than stopping their name from bouncing to the top of a Google search should their boss try to track down their on-line activities
I read the Glynny posts and sent him a PM
Re: please explain
Quote:
Originally Posted by dylanwinter
could you please explain the internal inconsistencies in your posts
or tell me why you are gunning for certain brokers
a sailor with wide experience yet looking for your first yacht
a boat builder
a person looking to help disabled children
prepared to consider all sorts of boats - regardless of geography or type
please, please explain
Dylan
he gave me an answer
it went something like
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I know this is the web - it is a sort of wild west where few rules apply
but these forums are, if not entirely civilised, at least honest.
Perhaps this chap is genuinly confused about his own identity - in which case I sincerely apologise
perhaps he is a young bloke out for a laugh at our expense - in which case that is a pretty pathetic game
or maybe he is a bored broker attempting to blacken the names of his competitors in which case things must be really tough for the established yacht brokers at the moment that some of them are resorting to such tactics.
The really worrying this is that these guys might get better at misleading us
in which case we would all have to be much more supicious about the motives of fellow forumites and think twice before hitting the send key
The whole episode makes me sadder than I can say.
Dylan
PS the name Glynny - according to the urban dictionary - refers to a person who has succesfully ****** a milf - so we have all been had
This, and PBO are wonderful forums. The honest and open advice I have received here have saved me lots of aggravation and money. There is a sort of cimmunity here.
The expertise and local knowledge has been invaluable to me over the years during my slow journey.
My boat is currently resting in a mud berth on the Humber at a lovely sailing club because I was introduced to the right people by a forumite. I have spent some splendid nights in anchorages recommended by people here.
But this place works on honesty and integrity. Without it we are lost.
Occasionally there is a spat about RNLI funding or RYA training - but it is all honest and open discourse.
Earlier this week there was a thread started from a chap who told a story about how he had been severely msitreated by a yacht broker
it turned into a fairly long thread
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332651
he was posting under the name of Glynny
he was calling for legislation and protection from rogue brokers
he named names
he said that he was an academic with wide sailing experience but looking for his first boat to introduce his family to sailing and was looking at a heap of junk costing £3,500
some of us repsonded offering advice.
His posting seemed a bit odd.... some many of the posts
on here are a bit odd - but I think they are generally honest.
so I had a look at his other postings
He had started a thread in the spring also complaining about another broker
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313166
this time he said that he was looking for a large boat to take disabled children sailing.
Again people took him at face value, extended the hand of friendship, gave him some good and useful advice.
But the links were left there blackening the names of brokers
there was a third thread started that told a different story
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257011
Lots of people use an alias on these fora - often their boat name - nothing wrong with that but they are not hiding anything other than stopping their name from bouncing to the top of a Google search should their boss try to track down their on-line activities
I read the Glynny posts and sent him a PM
Re: please explain
Quote:
Originally Posted by dylanwinter
could you please explain the internal inconsistencies in your posts
or tell me why you are gunning for certain brokers
a sailor with wide experience yet looking for your first yacht
a boat builder
a person looking to help disabled children
prepared to consider all sorts of boats - regardless of geography or type
please, please explain
Dylan
he gave me an answer
it went something like
##########################################################################
###########################
####################################
#######################
I know this is the web - it is a sort of wild west where few rules apply
but these forums are, if not entirely civilised, at least honest.
Perhaps this chap is genuinly confused about his own identity - in which case I sincerely apologise
perhaps he is a young bloke out for a laugh at our expense - in which case that is a pretty pathetic game
or maybe he is a bored broker attempting to blacken the names of his competitors in which case things must be really tough for the established yacht brokers at the moment that some of them are resorting to such tactics.
The really worrying this is that these guys might get better at misleading us
in which case we would all have to be much more supicious about the motives of fellow forumites and think twice before hitting the send key
The whole episode makes me sadder than I can say.
Dylan
PS the name Glynny - according to the urban dictionary - refers to a person who has succesfully ****** a milf - so we have all been had
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I've found the ignore button and sent my first complaint to the admin team about a poster. I hope they review the posters activity and take appropriate action on that user ID.
