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On a point of order, the plural of Captain Calamity is Captains Calamity, not Captain Calamatys or Captain Calamities.

Now that we have got that sorted out, you may return to the thread.

On another point of order, your point of order was made several epochs ago, shortly after this thread began. In the intervening millenia, some seem even to have taken the view that they're Captains Calumny for their remarks about the sainted Sir Robin, RNLI, WW2, etc, etc.
 

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Re: Captains Calamity

On another point of order, your point of order was made several epochs ago, shortly after this thread began. In the intervening millenia, some seem even to have taken the view that they're Captains Calumny for their remarks about the sainted Sir Robin, RNLI, WW2, etc, etc.

Hello hello .... can anybody hear me out there .... hello hello ........... :(

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No wishing to change the change in thread drift But:-
So who did win the war?
Agreed we were on the winning side- but without the assistance of the Americans we would have had no chance
So perhaps the captain had a point!!!!
 

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No wishing to change the change in thread drift But:-
So who did win the war?
Agreed we were on the winning side- but without the assistance of the Americans we would have had no chance
So perhaps the captain had a point!!!!

You could be right.

On the other hand, he might well be muddled up with the War of Independence.
 

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Who says Colin Archers are slow ? We've just seen even the talk about one disappear straight through some sort of discussional Stargate to another dimension !
 

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No wishing to change the change in thread drift But:-
So who did win the war?
Agreed we were on the winning side- but without the assistance of the Americans we would have had no chance
So perhaps the captain had a point!!!!

or as Stalin said: Britain gave time, America gave money and Russia gave blood
 

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I think you may well be right.

Someone has said that the boat is old and tired and they would have a job selling it in Hayle. I am sure none of those things are true.

The South West is one of the most vibrant areas for wooden boat sailing building and restoration. Every port has it's group of very knowledgeable aficionados. I can assure you there will be a number of eyes on this boat.

On the face of it, and notwithstanding any damage she may have suffered (substantial, according to one outburst from the owner) I would have it like a shot if only
a) I had any previous for looking after a wood boat.
b) I had nothing else to do.

My boat would have sunk years ago if it was wood, but then, it's not a toy.
 

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On the face of it, and notwithstanding any damage she may have suffered (substantial, according to one outburst from the owner) I would have it like a shot if only
a) I had any previous for looking after a wood boat.
b) I had nothing else to do.

My boat would have sunk years ago if it was wood, but then, it's not a toy.

A real pity that the lovely old NORA and her adventurous occupants could not have made the relative safety of somewhere like Penzance or Falmouth in the first instance, where at least the yacht could have laid nicely afloat without incurring risk of damage to the hull by taking the ground twice a day in a drying harbour such as Hayle. Having said that, I visited Hayle myself in 2014 - but in a bilge-keel Sadler, so no problem for me. HM very helpful and commented that they do not see many visiting yachts - apparently, I was the first one in months!
 

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A real pity that the lovely old NORA and her adventurous occupants could not have made the relative safety of somewhere like Penzance or Falmouth in the first instance, where at least the yacht could have laid nicely afloat without incurring risk of damage to the hull by taking the ground twice a day in a drying harbour such as Hayle. Having said that, I visited Hayle myself in 2014 - but in a bilge-keel Sadler, so no problem for me. HM very helpful and commented that they do not see many visiting yachts - apparently, I was the first one in months!

having looked at it on google earth - it would seem an excellent place to visit in the right boat. I agree though that if only she could have wound up on the Fal somewhere - there seem to be armies of old blokes in spattered blue overalls and black thinsulate hats bumbling around fettling project boats.
 

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Agreed, at somewhere like Percuil ( liveaboard place if my long term memory hasn't failed me ? ) they might have been able to lick their wounds, and even listen to some good advice !
 

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or as Stalin said: Britain gave time, America gave money and Russia gave blood

Britain and America gave plenty of blood too - not as much as Russia, but still too much; and never believe the whole thing was just the whim of one mad little git.

I think it's more a case of who lost the war than who won it; by taking on Russia and America they very effectively sealed their fates.
 

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having looked at it on google earth - it would seem an excellent place to visit in the right boat. I agree though that if only she could have wound up on the Fal somewhere - there seem to be armies of old blokes in spattered blue overalls and black thinsulate hats bumbling around fettling project boats.

Once inside it's OK. Remember that a 44ft St Ives gig, a fishing boat expressly designed to cope with running before a ground sea, was overturned on the bar in 1988. We lost our wheelhouse windows twice going out. The pools inside were designed to be held back by sluices until half tide to clear the bar for the coal ships. As it is the tide drains out very fast through the narrows, enough to stop a small boat, and this kicks up the ground sea on the bar. Unless very familiar care is needed, late flood or high water slack is ideal, obviously.
 

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or as Stalin said: Britain gave time, America gave money and Russia gave blood

I love the way one can drift off from Scuttlebutt for a while - to asset strip a former nationalised industry or paint a masterpiece or just tidy up the downstairs - and not only be brought bang up to date on some incessantly long thread, but learn new stuff as well!

My favourite Stalin quote is the way he referred to socialists and the suchlike in the West as "useful idiots". I wonder if his current reincarnation has the same blunt way of expressing himself?
 

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BTW my instinct is that this boat will never set sail across the Atlantic; their momentum seems well and truly broken.

I agree - broken momentum is a good way of putting it. Not sure where this story will end up, but I suspect not with a bang but with a whimper.

Let's be charitable for a while, and hope the old codger gets his act together just a little bit, finds a forecast of a good-weather spell, and gets out of there and away across the Western Approaches. If he manages that, can't we all wish him 'Gods Speed'....?

If he gets out there and away from the land, I'll certainly wish him the best of luck getting to the other side. For someone who doesn't understand tides or charts or buoyage that might be the easy bit, weather permitting.

Mad old hermit living in an immobile old wreck seems a more likely outcome though :(

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I agree - broken momentum is a good way of putting it. Not sure where this story will end up, but I suspect not with a bang but with a whimper.



If he gets out there and away from the land, I'll certainly wish him the best of luck getting to the other side. For someone who doesn't understand tides or charts or buoyage that might be the easy bit, weather permitting.

Mad old hermit living in an immobile old wreck seems a more likely outcome though :(

Pete

Pretty mean spirited I reckon.Maybe when the spring arrives it will put a whole new perspective on it.I hope so anyway & wish him well.
 

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Pretty mean spirited I reckon

That's not what I want to see - I'd like him to make it across the pond as long as he gets away without causing any more trouble. It's just what I realistically think is most likely to happen. That or he abandons the boat and flies home.

Pete
 

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This is just one of those threads that goes on and on and says nothing.

Rarely does a thread that goes beyond a page offer anything new or interesting.

Shame I can't stop reading :)

Anyone actually know what the plan is? If so, please start a new one. Someone here must have some insight?
 

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This is just one of those threads that goes on and on and says nothing.

Rarely does a thread that goes beyond a page offer anything new or interesting.

Shame I can't stop reading :)

Anyone actually know what the plan is? If so, please start a new one. Someone here must have some insight?

Shall be down in Penzance at the end of next week, so maybe will nip along to Hayle to see if there is any sign of life on board and also try to find out any future passage-making intentions.... or what.
 
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