Can you see where you are going ?

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I always get suckered by these con artists!



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Not a con artist just trying to make a point


a) sail doesn't have the right if way over power, sail is usually the stand on vessel


This basic principal was lost with the two clowns, one of which tacked into me at the last minute 'in a narrow channel'.

b) I wanted to know if any one knew the term and relevance of a narrow Chanel (yellow markings are swinging boats) ?

c) can you see where you are going in spray ?

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With a narrow channel the tacking of most dinghys will actually be quite predictable. They will either be hugging one side of the channel (if the tide is against them), so tacking a short way out into the channel then tacking back to the edge, or tacking up the middle (tide with them).

And yes, spray can be a problem regarding visibility.

 

[dom]

Three questions

1. You were well ahead when sailing boat tacked

2. What are the yellow blobs in your diagram?

3. How did you do such a fast turn without splilling your beer?

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[DAKA]

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. They will either be hugging one side of the channel (if the tide is against them), so tacking a short way out into the channel then tacking back to the edge, or tacking up the middle (tide with them).

And yes, spray can be a problem regarding visibility.

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I think you have answered the query thank you, I had missed the current issue /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif, I had aimed to go passed his stern and I had assumed he tacked into me for the devilment.

Spray answers why he hadn't seen me.

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Back to being happy again /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[DAKA]

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Three questions

1. You were well ahead when sailing boat tacked...........no thats my bad drawing /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

2. What are the yellow blobs in your diagram?.........more bl@@dy yachts /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

3. How did you do such a fast turn without splilling your beer?............keep up that was the first crash /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Crash one easy to explain

He couldnt see me due to salt water spray in his eyes.

I was having a beer and didnt see him until it was too late.

Crash 1 was 100% his fault.

Incident 2 was part my fault for missing the current issue and thinking he would use the full width of the narrow Chanel

 

[flaming]

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3. How did you do such a fast turn without splilling your beer?............keep up that was the first crash



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So...... What happened in that one, other than you being too busy having a beer to keep a look out!? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[dom]

There must be some superiority in sail as you have given "Sail" a capital S and "me" a small m.

I think in the Colregs lowercase gives way to uppercase so you were in the wrong!

 

[steve_cronin]

To put it in the words of Peter Wheeler at a rugby dinner.....

about ten years ago:-

"This Bloke is Pulling your Pisser!"

Steve Cronin

 

[DAKA]

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There must be some superiority in sail as you have given "Sail" a capital S and "me" a small m.

I think in the Colregs lowercase gives way to uppercase so you were in the wrong!

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You really are clutching at straws there. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

NO WAY WILL I ACCEPT ANT FAULT FOR CRASH ONE , I HADNT EVEN SEEN HIM , I AM NOT AT FAULT .

In retrospect there was only one way I could have avoided him hitting my port side but that is ancient maritime law that few practise these days............
Assuming I know what I am doing the clues are all above /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thanks for all your entertaining input, flaming answered my concerns. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Guest]

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I HADNT EVEN SEEN HIM , I AM NOT AT FAULT

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Was he wearing an invisibility cloak?

 

[rickp]

You were at anchor?

Rick

 

[Kawasaki]

It's obvious You have Right Of Way.
As the diagram indicates You have just been through a Purple Patch and the Raggie is Green with envy!

 

[oughtoc]

sail or power, the idea is to avoid hitting each other at all. That's what the colregs are about, not an excuse for assigning blame. Accidents happen. He didn't see you, you didn't see him = accident. If he saw you and rammed anyway he's still at fault. Insufficient watch kept is a bad old thing, too many deaths from that one. And since I'm on my high horse, let's hear it for a good old bit of gentlemanly conduct too, obvious turns away and a cheery wave & all that.

 

[Achillesheel]

To sum up, DAKA was in a narrow channel, there were moored boats, it was blowing a hooley, there was a lot of spray about (caused by what, exactly?) he had a beer in his hand, a dinghy was tacking towards him, and deliberately altered course to hit him?

 

[Lakesailor]

To sum up, DAKA was bored on a quiet Monday afternoon and thought he'd enliven or enrage some forumites.
His Etch-a-Sketch was playing up so the diagram has been missread by some and anyway, most people on forums read what they want into a posting, whatever you write. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[BlueSkyNick]

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You were at anchor?

Rick

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In a narrow channel ?? If so, I trust he was displaying an anchor ball or light.

 

[gandy]

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NO WAY WILL I ACCEPT ANT FAULT FOR CRASH ONE , I HADNT EVEN SEEN HIM , I AM NOT AT FAULT .

[/ QUOTE ] This has to be a wind up.

"Milord, I am 100% blameless, even though mine was the give-way vessel, because I wasn't keeping a lookout"

 

[cameronke]

It was at the Battle of Copenhagen that Nelson held his telescope to his blind
eye, saying, “I see no ships” before he disobeyed order. ...

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[DAKA]

Rick got the closest /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I best come clean seeing as PM complaints are coming in.....sorry /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I would like to make it absolutely clear that I was not having a beer during incident two and adamantly refute allegations that the spray was from the tinnies we were opening /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif It was a dry boat at that time.

Crash 1

The only way I could have avoided the damage to the port side was if I had mored on the traditional Port side in which case the dinghy would have hit my starboard side.
I thought the idea of me having a beer and not watching too closely was a big enough clue.


Port side is the tradition from the Viking ship days

The Viking stearboard was always on the Starboard side so they had to moor on the port side.

Hence stearboard side became starboard
port side became well port


Cheers
Pete

 

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You've missed a bit.

Port was Larboard until someone pointed out that starboard and larboard sound very similar.

And I still maintain that you were at fault for crash one. Being moored is no excuse. You were obviously moored in an inconsiderate place.

editied to remove crass stupidity with spelling

 

[hornblower]

I am afraid that it gives them the right to stand on and makes you responsible for giving way _ under the colregs