Can I drop crew of in Turkey without checking in ?

[temptress]

Ariadne was a little forceful in the response, but Ariande is correct and you are wrong (I do not know about airplanes). You are wrong about vessels, except if the vessel declares an emergency. In the case of an emergency some countries require that the entire vessel be bonded and the length of emergency stay is usually limited to 24 hours. I am aware of vessels allowed into a country for an emergency without formal clearance or bond, but of the three circumstances that I am aware of (2 for emergency refuelling and 1 for emergency repairs), each country required the vessel to stay in one spot and the crew could not leave the boat. One of the three had an armed official onboard until the boat left the harbour. In all of the emergency cases it was at the will of the officials. The worst thing to do in a situation like this is to attempt to bully your way into a country...you will most certainly fail.

One more thing that captains of vessels should know about departing crew members: If the crew is of a different nationality than the country in which they are departing, It is the captain's responsibility that the departing crew members have Visas (in fact, or by law) in that country and that departing crew have departure transportation tickets to leave that country. I am aware of a vessel and crew that cleared into a country to let off crew who had a 30-day Visa by law, but the crew had no transportation ticket out of the country. The vessel was impounded until the crew member produced a ticket. The captain paid about 1,000 USD for the ticket because the crew member did not have the money.

Clearance into foreign countries and respect of their immigration laws should be taken very seriously. If you do not take them seriously and promote the, "I got away with it" in public forums, I will certainly slam you much harder than Ariadne.

Bill

+1

TO clear you crew in you must clear the boat in. It is the captain's responsibility to prove (or provide) the crew have the means to return to their country of origin. Should your crew be denied entry of any reason then YOU as Captain are responsible for them. If you chose to do something else then you are not complying with the law in Turkey or elsewhere.

 

[affinite]

Departing crew would have documents to prove they were holidaying in Turkey and would also have return air tickets to the UK to show immigration.
Tourist visa can be arranged at immigration so I dont think documents would be an issue.

The key comment for me is your first one ie "To clear the crew in you must clear the boat in"
That was the crux of my question I guess so if thats the case then I'll put them on the ferry from KOS

Thanks for all advice - Im just off to rent a copy of "Midnight Express" so as to reinforce my decision.

 

[Chatelaine60]

Easier to send them across on the fery from Kos to Bodrum. That channel can blow up very rough if the weather happens to be bad when you want to cross over! We have hit some incredible thunderstorms over there the last 2 years, ok if the weather is fine but I still would not chance it having watched the turkish and grekk authorities this year land "immigrants" by Coastguard boats both in Turkey at Cesme and Greece in Chios. Good luck and enjoy the hols.

 

[akyaka]

Tourist visa can be arranged at immigration so I dont think documents would be an issue.

From April 2014 you will not be able to do this and will have to get your tourist visa in advance either on-line or at the Embassy in your country of residence

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2362805

There are major changes to the Residency Permits as well with a maximum 12 month Residency Permit including for those like me who currently have multi year RP's when we come to renew.It will at least avoid having to go through a counting back exercise for those planning multiple visits particularly twice yearly Spring/Autumn visits.

 

[tcm]

hum, well, i chucked crew off in Antigua without checking in... and I found out later that they'd been deported back to the UK on the very next plane! Bit of a sudden end to their transatlantic adventure, heyho. So my guess is no, yer can't, not without them getting into trouble...

 

[affinite]

"From April 2014 you will not be able to do this and will have to get your tourist visa in advance either on-line or at the Embassy in your country of residence"

Interesting I didn't know about that - Thanks

 

[fuss]

Next summer we will be sailing in the Dodecanese with crew who then want to spend a week or so in Turkey.
Does anyone know if it would be allowed for me to

sail from Greece (Kos) to Turkey (Bodrum), tie up at the customs quay so that departing crew can legitimately checkin to the country/get their passports checked/ buy visas etc
then me sail the boat straight back to Greece without checking me and the boat into Turkey ?
Seems to me that this is exactly what the Kos-Bodrum ferries do all day long but I dont know if they have some sort of special arrangement.

I dont want the hassle or expense of checking me and the boat into Turkey if I can avoid it so if this cant be done, I'll just put them on the ferry in Kos

Thanks
Steve

Sorry spelling in title Should read "Can I drop crew off in Turkey without checking in? "

Ah, just the info I was looking for...... I've just picked up 15 people off the coast of Morocco, they said they are on the way to England for a short holiday.... Do you think I could drop them off in Falmouth without checking in. Shouldn't take long.

Could I just tie up at the fuel dock for a few minutes or will I have to go through the rigmarole of using an official berth?
Thanks John

 

[Bilgediver]

Ah, just the info I was looking for...... I've just picked up 15 people off the coast of Morocco, they said they are on the way to England for a short holiday.... Do you think I could drop them off in Falmouth without checking in. Shouldn't take long.

Could I just tie up at the fuel dock for a few minutes or will I have to go through the rigmarole of using an official berth?
Thanks John

Better chose another port.....They will now be waiting for you at Falmouth......Repaint your boat and change the name whilst at it and do some zig zags to annoy the Sat viewers

 

[affinite]

Ah, just the info I was looking for...... I've just picked up 15 people off the coast of Morocco, they said they are on the way to England for a short holiday.... Do you think I could drop them off in Falmouth without checking in. Shouldn't take long.

Could I just tie up at the fuel dock for a few minutes or will I have to go through the rigmarole of using an official berth?
Thanks John

OK OK I got the message - dont take the Pi**