Campbelletown Harbour showers not available use.

[V1701]

How ridiculous to render them unusable, I don't think there's anywhere that staff are sterilising showers after every use, people just need to be sensible and as already stated we now know that surface transmission risk is small. Reducing the number of showers available also makes no sense unless they are being properly sterilised after every use, that will increase not decrease the risk...

 

[JumbleDuck]

We did see a boat locking into the Crinan Canal. Do locals use that much? How much does it cost?

It gets use, but a lot less than it used to because (a) it's falling to bits and (b) it costs quite a bit - £13.15 per metre one-way, small discount for the return trip. As a result an awful lot of boat, particularly bigger ones and motorboats, tend to go round the Mull.

If I can get my boat put back together I'm going to be based in the canal from now on.

 

[dunedin]

It gets use, but a lot less than it used to because (a) it's falling to bits and (b) it costs quite a bit - £13.15 per metre one-way, small discount for the return trip. As a result an awful lot of boat, particularly bigger ones and motorboats, tend to go round the Mull.

If I can get my boat put back together I'm going to be based in the canal from now on.

Also average yacht size has got bigger / deeper, and with more reliable / powerful engines - so getting through canal with 2.1m draft is perhaps more stressful (at least for the skipper) than a trip round the Mull in a 40 footer, provided can wait for a weather window

(And with modern boat with big tanks and hot water, shore showers are largely a thing of the past)

 

[JumbleDuck]

Also average yacht size has got bigger / deeper, and with more reliable / powerful engines - so getting through canal with 2.1m draft is perhaps more stressful (at least for the skipper) than a trip round the Mull in a 40 footer, provided can wait for a weather window

Absolutely. Even in my 8m boat I have twice recently come back to the Clyde via the Mull rather than the canal because (a) it's almost as fast (b) it's cheaper (c) the boat doesn't get filthy and (d) my crew is now old enough to take the helm while I sleep. If I had a 40 footer (hah) I wouldn't even consider the canal unless the weather was dire.

 

[[2574]]

Absolutely. Even in my 8m boat I have twice recently come back to the Clyde via the Mull rather than the canal because (a) it's almost as fast (b) it's cheaper (c) the boat doesn't get filthy and (d) my crew is now old enough to take the helm while I sleep. If I had a 40 footer (hah) I wouldn't even consider the canal unless the weather was dire.

Agreed. And if the weather was dire I’d wait until it wasn’t.

 

[Quandary]

I have passed the Mull more than 100 times (we used to be in Belfast Lough) in a variety of yachts that we have owned. I can only recall one occasion when it has been really uncomfortable (scary) while going south but many more times when heading northward. Our transits have always been in the summer months though, I would need a very settled forecast to face it in winter. I also think that the conditions are much more benign at neaps and when we have been coming south at night in the dark it always seemed to be smooth. I suspect this may be because coming south or north you meet the strongest bit first and are able to time this for slack water whereas coming through Sanda Sound fromthe east the tide has been running for an hour when you get to the bouncy bit.

 

[Neeves]

I wonder how many yachts today don't have any hot shower facilities, or cannot rig up same. If you don't have, or cannot rig up, hot shower facilities - what do you do when these are not provided, say when you anchor. Presumably fresh water and power is still available?

Jonathan

 

[AngusMcDoon]

I wonder how many yachts today don't have any hot shower facilities, or cannot rig up same. If you don't have, or cannot rig up, hot shower facilities - what do you do when these are not provided, say when you anchor. Presumably fresh water and power is still available?

There are small boats aplenty like mine with no shower. What to do? Nothing. No-one was hurt by a bit of soap dodging. Showering every day is a recent invention.

 

[Neeves]

Showering every day is a recent invention.

Every day? twice a day surely. That depends on how old you are and your understanding of the word 'recent'. My granddaughters believe that showers are a birthright. When I was a bit younger than they are now (and lived in Scotland) I'd never seen a shower, not was I aware of anyone who had one (so sympathise with your post).

What to do? Hope for some sunshine and a black polythene bag with a shower head, which is what we did on our J24 (but does not cut the mustard with the young ladies).

Jonathan

 

[Skylark]

I have passed the Mull more than 100 times (we used to be in Belfast Lough) in a variety of yachts that we have owned.

I have nowhere near that experience but I recall one passage heading north. Fair spring tide, put F4-5 wind on the beam, full sail plus cruising chute, the boat loved it and was flying. Planned to go to Campbelltown but enjoyed the wind so
much, went to Lamlash instead.

 

[newtothis]

Showering every day is a recent invention.

There are plenty of folk still alive today for whom "bath night" was a lived experience.

 

[Ink]

I wonder how many yachts today don't have any hot shower facilities, or cannot rig up same. If you don't have, or cannot rig up, hot shower facilities - what do you do when these are not provided, say when you anchor. Presumably fresh water and power is still available?

Jonathan

In the 60's and 70's if you didn't get a shower in the local hotel you smelled for the summer cruise. Our 32' wooden yacht carried 10 gallons of fresh water. Alongside facilities were unheard of back then.

Ink

 

[Deleted member 36384]

I wonder how many yachts today don't have any hot shower facilities, or cannot rig up same. If you don't have, or cannot rig up, hot shower facilities - what do you do when these are not provided, say when you anchor. Presumably fresh water and power is still available?

Jonathan

Damp flannels. Quick, clean and far more hygienic than showers. A good flanneling in the morning and night is so invigorating and relaxing. Saves water to boot!

 

[Neeves]

Given that most people are used to making do, or having a bath once a week - what's all the whingeing about.



Jonathan

 

[penfold]

They're being obliged to pay for facilities they cannot use.

Given that most people are used to making do, or having a bath once a week - what's all the whingeing about.



Jonathan

 

[Neeves]

They're being obliged to pay for facilities they cannot use.

Sorry - but if this is a really big issue - then go somewhere else (or anchor). People are not obliged to pay - they can go somewhere else. It could be that the showers are a very minor part of the costs incurred.

My guess is that people don't use the harbour because of the showers, they are a bonus - they use the harbour because it gives them a safe location and its the safety aspect and convenience that is foremost in their mind (not the showers). If they had to pay to use the harbour at the current rate (as is happening) and the showers were an extra charge - my guess is the same people would use the harbour and some would make do with on board facilities.

Whingeing here will make no difference - boycott the harbour and you might have more impact (though I doubt it).

Now .... if the harbour is being promoted, advertised, etc as offering hot showers as part of the nightly charge - then there is a basis for complaint and I'm sure to sell without a facility advertised breaks some law or other.

Jonathan

 

[LONG_KEELER]

Given that most people are used to making do, or having a bath once a week - what's all the whingeing about.



Jonathan

Wet Wipes. The cruising sailor's friend.

In the bin afterwards of course.

 

[Neeves]

Wet Wipes. The cruising sailor's friend.

In the bin afterwards of course.

Agreed,

Refreshing on this thread for a positive thought

Its amazing, given the numbers who do not bin but flush them ('the numbers' does not refer specifically nor preferentially, to those who sail) that technology has not addressed a wet wipe that can be flushed. It is simply paper (I think also known as non-woven fabric?) and it does not seem beyond the wit of man, or woman, to make a paper of a strength to be used as a wet wipe but that subsequently breaks down).

Jonathan

 

[penfold]

T

Agreed,

Its amazing, given the numbers who do not bin but flush them ('the numbers' does not refer specifically nor preferentially, to those who sail) that technology has not addressed a wet wipe that can be flushed. It is simply paper (I think also known as non-woven fabric?) and it does not seem beyond the wit of man, or woman, to make a paper of a strength to be used as a wet wipe but that subsequently breaks down).

Jonathan

That's rather the problem, it's plastic, not paper; combining sewage systems with these works of beelzebub result in endemic blockages and fairly disgusting rafts of the things on beaches.

 

[Quandary]

They're being obliged to pay for facilities they cannot use.

Aaaaw diddums! £20 for 10m. inc. leccy annd help with berthing, how much do you pay in Kip for a visitors berth you can not get out of?