halcyon
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We lost the trailer axle builder's in the 70's and 80's, together with UK engineers. Back then we designed axles for a job and tested them to ensure they were up to usage.
Brian
But do they need to Work
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We lost the trailer axle builder's in the 70's and 80's, together with UK engineers. Back then we designed axles for a job and tested them to ensure they were up to usage.
Brian
Bigplumbs
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Yes I agree good prices I got myself short of time so had to go local. Little fred here
http://www.rib.net/forum/f49/many-thanks-trailer-guy-knott-brakes-78656.html#post771711
Dennis
stelican
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Brakes spraying with lubricant, Not a good idea.
Bigplumbs
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Did you read my actual post. I am not interested in the braking efficiency as it is not at all necessary. I don't want them to corrode up and seize. Anyway even with some WD40 on them they will still hold
stelican
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It is known for trailers with inefficient brakes to jackknife which I m sure you will agree could be very dangerous.
Bigplumbs
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More theory and obvious statements. Once again did you read my post.
stelican
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Well lets hope you do not cause an accident through inefficient trailer brakes just because you thought you were wiser.
Bigplumbs
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1000 kg of boat behind 2200 kg of tow car and you think that will jacknife do you. I am interested in the real not the theory....... Far to much theory on here
For years the boat was towed with no brakes at all as it was all seized up with no problems as is the case with many boats that are dunked in the sea
Might I ask if you actually tow a boat or indeed anything
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stelican
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Yes unfortunately it does happen. So it would seem you have been towing illegally not a clever thing to admit!
Towed boats up to 60ft in the past.
Towed boats up to 60ft in the past.
Bigplumbs
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Once again read my post. Who was it that towed illegally, The boat has had previous owners. Either way admitting something is just telling the truth, The other is lying in my book.
60 ft long what roads was that on as it is almost 2 x the uk legal length
Bigplumbs
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Well Now I have replaced the tow Hitch complete, New Pull rod, New Brakes complete all working lovely. I wonder how long that will last
rbcoomer
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Been following this thread and biting my tongue for a while.
Here's a hypothetical scenario for you Dennis...
You are driving along towing your boat at 40mph when an old couple going home from their weekly shop pull across 20' in front of you having suffered a 'medical episode'. No time to stop and traffic coming the other way/pedestrians on footpath so nowhere to go, you hit them head on. Tragically one or both of them are killed and both vehicles written off.
So Mr PC Traffic turns up and closes the road for accident investigation. The old couple clearly 'at fault' as they turned into your path, but accident investigators find your trailer brakes defective/ineffective (WD40!). Insurance company use a get out clause in small print and you are uninsured. Best case scenario you have to pay for new boat, car and trailer and get prosecuted for driving without insurance. Worst case, your brakes are deemed a contributory factor and you are done for manslaughter - lose the car, boat and trailer, get banned/points and a custodial sentence... It wasn't even your fault.
Suddenly £150 every other year to replace trailer brakes and ensure they are working seems value for money doesn't it? :/
Accidents don't have to be your fault, but one certain fact I've realised in my 50 years is that all gamblers sometimes lose! Each time you go out with no brakes on trailer (irrespective of if you think you can stop or not), you are rolling the dice...
So, my advice on 'Do they have to work?' is 'Yes'. Stay safe and live longer to enjoy the boat. :encouragement:
Here's a hypothetical scenario for you Dennis...
You are driving along towing your boat at 40mph when an old couple going home from their weekly shop pull across 20' in front of you having suffered a 'medical episode'. No time to stop and traffic coming the other way/pedestrians on footpath so nowhere to go, you hit them head on. Tragically one or both of them are killed and both vehicles written off.
So Mr PC Traffic turns up and closes the road for accident investigation. The old couple clearly 'at fault' as they turned into your path, but accident investigators find your trailer brakes defective/ineffective (WD40!). Insurance company use a get out clause in small print and you are uninsured. Best case scenario you have to pay for new boat, car and trailer and get prosecuted for driving without insurance. Worst case, your brakes are deemed a contributory factor and you are done for manslaughter - lose the car, boat and trailer, get banned/points and a custodial sentence... It wasn't even your fault.
Suddenly £150 every other year to replace trailer brakes and ensure they are working seems value for money doesn't it? :/
Accidents don't have to be your fault, but one certain fact I've realised in my 50 years is that all gamblers sometimes lose! Each time you go out with no brakes on trailer (irrespective of if you think you can stop or not), you are rolling the dice...
So, my advice on 'Do they have to work?' is 'Yes'. Stay safe and live longer to enjoy the boat. :encouragement:
Bigplumbs
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Yes a possibility like so many possibilities in life. The original post was about the interpretation of the law and how it is so badly written.
We should also remember that so many people think that having a defective part on a vehicle can invalidate the Insurance. This is seldom the case unless it is expressly written
On the WD40 front, Having now stripped down and replaced everything I am certain that if all the mechanism inside the hub is all working and not corroded any amount of WD40 on the shoes would not stop the brakes from functioning. They pull on so hard. In fact I think at the moment rather too hard. I still have a road test to do.
Having also now done the work on what was a new axle about 3 years ago and it having been washout out after every use and lubricated it is my firm belief that most towed boats out there will have poorly functioning brakes
As ever this like so many threads has morphed
stelican
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Bigplumbs
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That is a big boat which I suspect weighs the same or more than the tow vehicle. Not a reasonable comparison
For all the 'Sky is falling fraternity' it is very easy to find pics of almost anything on the web
stelican
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Just a warning of what can happen if your brakes are not correctly set up.
Suggest you have your DIY trailer brake overhaul independently inspected before use as it could save you a whole load of grief.
Suggest you have your DIY trailer brake overhaul independently inspected before use as it could save you a whole load of grief.
Bigplumbs
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Now that is probably the most stupid suggestion so far. Utter nonsense and spoken like a true pay it done, the sky is falling worrier. Search the net for another picture or report I am sure you can find one.
Are you seriously suggesting that DIY work is worse than work carried out by others. Who inspects their work, What qualifications do they need, Am I better than them.
Shall I get a little piece of paper signed by them to put on file so that if something goes wrong I can blame someone else.
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stelican
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Enough said you are proving to be your own worst enemy. Happy boating! if you get there.
Bigplumbs
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Make sure you get your posts checked by someone else. Belt, braces and a sky hooks are wise in my view
Blue Sunray
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:encouragement:
