Brexit and sailing

grumpy_o_g said:
You don't have to hate to tell me that - I already knew it. It's a USA organisation that publishes a British magazine that hosts this forum. :encouragement:
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You do understand the difference between Britain and the UK don't you? It rather sound form your posts that you think that they are synonymous.
 
jimbaerselman said:
I suspect that few outcomes of a Brexit will be more intrusive than the attempts to impose border controls on leisure yachts a couple of years back.
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With all this focus by the Out protagonists about "closing the borders", I certainly think that something much more onerous than the E-Borders proposals would be enforced on pleasure boaters - otherwise it would leave a gaping hole in the border controls acros the channel and North Sea
 
RAI said:
Can an Outer provide a list of improvements to our yachting experience that Brexit would create?
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I suspect that there aren't any, but it's not about me and my boating fun, it's about the future of our country for our kids and future generations. If I have to stop going to to some European countries, and have to retire to the Caribbean rather than the Med, well so be it.
 
Elecglitch said:
You do understand the difference between Britain and the UK don't you? It rather sound form your posts that you think that they are synonymous.
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Yep. To the best of my knowledge none of the editorial staff or facilities that the ybw magazine family uses are based outside the British mainland (though I would be happy to be corrected by someone in the know) but it would have been a little pedantic to have specially excluded certain parts of the British Isles or the United Kingdom, not to mention irrelevant given the context of the post.
 
As a rare poster.
ive got to put in my two pence worth, Im for brexit proir to the eu being formed apart from paper work odd hassels etc there was never a problem i dont think for one minute spain,greece france etc will give to much trouble increased paperwork more regulations but not to the point itl discourage boaters from spending money in there marinas . what sent me over the edge ie brexit was i was in a group many i didnt no one of the group was saying we might have to use more farm land to build houses we have so many immagrants to house he turned out to be a council big wig ok im predudiced i like living near the countryside .
 
westhinder said:
Arriving in Belgium: hoist the Q-flag, have ship's papers ready, passport, visa, proof of vaccination, state all intended ports of call, be prepared for checks on amount of cash carried, red diesel, alcohol on board... Hope there will be no rules outlawing the import of vegetables, meat, or other fresh food products. Clear in and clear out of every harbour, be happy that immigration, customs and police are all in the same building, but that will not be the case everywhere.
Upon returning in UK: hoist the Q-flag, be prepared for checks by customs, immigration, border patrol. Account for your whereabouts whilst abroad. Pay import duties on your stock of Belgian beer, cheese, chocolate or any other gastronomical goodies that you have bought because they are hard to find or too expensive in Blighty...
And vice versa for us, no doubt. Something to look forward to, really.:cool:
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Sounds awful, perhaps sail around the Caribbean for a while and the novalty of boat paper work will soon wear off
 
westhinder said:
Actually I got my inspiration from a charter holiday in the Caribbean :cool:
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It has long been wished for a union of the Caribbean for free movement for yachts but instead: hang around on a hot day, sober With mozzies flying around in Nelsons Dockyard. No thanks
 
scubajohn said:
As a rare poster.
ive got to put in my two pence worth, Im for brexit proir to the eu being formed apart from paper work odd hassels etc there was never a problem i dont think for one minute spain,greece france etc will give to much trouble increased paperwork more regulations but not to the point itl discourage boaters from spending money in there marinas . what sent me over the edge ie brexit was i was in a group many i didnt no one of the group was saying we might have to use more farm land to build houses we have so many immagrants to house he turned out to be a council big wig ok im predudiced i like living near the countryside .
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To explain the housing shortage by saying "it's immigrants" is a ridiculous argument. They have a small effect but:
+ the aging population profile meaning housing stock is kept by a person longer,
+ the reduction in the number of family generations living together,
+ the number of developers sitting on land with planning permission to artificially boost house prices,
+ absentee owners buying for profits (in some new builds, 80%+ of properties are bought as investment and have no body living in them),
All have a greater effect.

What happens if we're unlucky enough to Brexit is unknown. We could have a situation similar to Switzerland where we continue to pay in, have free movement of goods and services, implement most of the rules but have no say, or a trade agreement but have to obey all non trade rules that they may wish to impose.

Either way, the EU can't afford to let someone walk away scot free.
 
Given that much of our manufacturing and science industries will be in recession for years and London will cease to be a financial powerhouse that can continue to subsidise the rest of the country, I doubt too many of us will be able to afford the sorts of yacht we think is required for the trip.
 
Judders said:
Given that much of our manufacturing and science industries will be in recession for years and London will cease to be a financial powerhouse that can continue to subsidise the rest of the country, I doubt too many of us will be able to afford the sorts of yacht we think is required for the trip.
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Yes, I'm also building a bunker for when the EU drop the bomb on us. :rolleyes:
 
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