Boat Stability

[Gludy]

Re: Bike stability

Yes but you have to assume that the skill element is good and a constant otherwise you cannot judge the bike itself. Further there is no skill element when the bike is stood still and that is when its stability is at its worst!

Further, I would never fit into one of those tight leather jackets!

 

[Nauti Fox]

Re: Bike stability

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Further there is no skill element when the bike is stood still and that is when its stability is at its worst!

Further, I would never fit into one of those tight leather jackets!

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You mean you can't balance when stood still? dear dear me, and the jackets actually come in different sizes!
Go on, try it, its fuuuun!

 

[Wiggo]

Re: Bike stability

Gods, no! A Suzuki...

 

[Gludy]

Re: Bike stability

I am one of those with a licence to drive any size bike but frankly these days they scare me stiff.

Just managed to encouyrage one of mys sons away from one and into a sports car.

You always mix up the skill of the driiver;helm with the stabikity charestics of the bike/boat this leads to any discussion never getting anywhere ... it introduces a fudge factor to hide behind ....... now I know that there are bikers prowling around the forum it sheds new light on the hull shape debate.

Do you acceot that a bike has very poor stability characteristics when is stood still and requites its forward speed to provide its stability? Yes or No?

I will bey you anything that even that cannot be agreed

 

[BarryH]

Re: Bike stability

This is the worst case of thread drift for a long time.....its not even boat related. Its so obviously a planning thread as with no forward motion it has no stability. Coupled with the fact theres no deep rooted keel it is easily influenced by outside forces that its impossible to hold station in anything but the most settled conditions.
Even if any forward motion is capable it'll wander all over the place as it well known that the planning form has no lateral stability at displacement speeds.

 

[Nauti Fox]

Re: Bike stability

Yes, so there!

 

[Nauti Fox]

Re: Bike stability

Holy Moly!

 

[Gludy]

Re: Bike stability

Is that a Noddy badge or a vany Town police force badge on that helmet?

As an aside - its you that is totally responsibel for as my friend Barry has pointed out .... drifted way off tpoic on this thread. Not only that but you have led me astary as well but i just have to know if that is a noddy badge on a Noddy helmet or not.

 

[BarryH]

Re: Bike stability

Grayson Perry rides one of those!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

[Gludy]

Re: Bike stability

No, I think you do!

 

[Its_Only_Money]

Re: Bike stability

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Do you acceot that a bike has very poor stability characteristics when is stood still and requites its forward speed to provide its stability? Yes or No?

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No, moving bike just as unstable as stationary bike - difference is that moving bike introduces the ability to make small corrections that do not exist (for most riders - see next para), with a stationary bike.

Some individuals can balance stationary bikes of various shapes/sizes/number of wheels but that is clearly down to the skill of the rider (helm). That it is easier to correct a moving bikes attitude compared to a stationary bike's does not make the moving bike more inherently stable.

The evidence I produce for this is that a moving bike will not stay upright on its own however fast and vertically it is released, without continual corrections applied through the rider it will fall over.....

 

[Wiggo]

Sir! Sir!

Gludy's saying rude things about me, Sir!

 

[Nauti Fox]

Re: Sir! Sir!

Not to worry young fella me lad, he's only envious as he no longer fits into any known size of protective garment, enabling him to partake in such a roughy toughy hobby.

 

[Wiggo]

Re: Cheeky bloody monkey

Noddy helmet indeed. I'll have you know that's a reproduction of the Wehrmacht's finest, lovingly chrome plated...

 

[Wiggo]

Re: Bike stability

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Do you acceot that a bike has very poor stability characteristics when is stood still and requites its forward speed to provide its stability? Yes or No?

I will bey you anything that even that cannot be agreed

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Of course we can't agree on it. You clearly failed to specify an orientation, and I maintain that a bike, properly laid on it's side on the floor is at least as stable as the average round keel, diplacement bilge planing motorcruiser.

Anyway, at least I don't need stabilisers on my bike.

 

[Gludy]

Re: Cheeky bloody monkey

"Wehrmacht's finest"

No i understand how the manage the bike ... you just go along goose stepping and your legs act as stabilisers!!!

This explains why the Noddy bike does not have such stablisers (which by the way my new boat does ... just in case I forgot to point that out!). Normally Noddy and his friends would not be seen out without such things but all is beginning to make sense now...... the black leather things , two stiff legs sticking out as stablisers ... must make a grand sight to see.

 

[Nauti Fox]

Re: Bike stability

Wiggo, you wearing platform boots?

 

[Gludy]

Re: Sir! Sir!

"Gludy's saying rude things about me, Sir! "

Not true - I said rude things about you (past tense), I am not saying them now (current continous sense)... or at least you cannot hear if I am!

 

[BarryH]

Re: Bike stability

pssst..its the car that'd make me cringe.

 

[Wiggo]

Re: Bike stability

That was below the belt! Anyway, I can't have a posh car, I own a Sealine. It all sort of goes together as a package, see?