Boat in build pics (2013 Fairline Squadron 78)

[prv]

To be fair I think there is room for improvement here..

With the camera mounted to starboard and in the interests of symmetry you could perhaps install a pressure washer inside the anchor locker [...] at the flick of a switch it could wash away any dirt / weed / fish / bikini tops that said anchor may have picked up during its journey back up

I'm actually kind of surprised that Match doesn't have an anchor wash system. It's a lot less exotic than a lot of the stuff she does have. I've even considered fitting one, albeit with manually-held hose rather than built-in nozzles, to our bog-standard (by comparison) sailing boat.

I guess in most of the intended anchorages the bottom is clean golden sand rather than stinking Solent mud

Pete

 

[Tender_aft]

Hi there. The answer I gotta say is just google, knowing what to search for, then internet shopping The actuator is eBay item 18102589766 and the remote is made up of 111027012445 receiver and 110927178524 transmitter. Plus relays etc. Those numbers may not work now, in the transient world of ebay but here is another example (though mine is 24v, but you get the idea). http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Spee...utomation_Control_ET&var=&hash=item1c3392366f

Google "linear actuator" and there is lots of choice

Fairline spray about 8 coats of lacquer with hand sanding in between coats, and the top layer is hand buffed. This gives a high gloss, like a black piano. It's handy that they agreed to do this as I could not do it! All the dark wenge wood on the boat is finished this way, and contrasts nicely with the satin walnut. It's a pretty labour intensive process but adds a nice luxury feel

Thanks, both subjects I know nothing about so didn't know where to start (even though I had a quick lesson in Robbins)...you've opened up a new world to me.

 

[MapisM]

I'm actually kind of surprised that Match doesn't have an anchor wash system.

Who said she doesn't? I'm not 100% positive, but by heart I'd say that's even standard on Sq78.
Anyhow, I fully agree that it's something worth having, fwiw - also in the Med. Not so much for the mud, but for the weeds.
And since you're thinking to fit it, I'd suggest to install it in such way that it can also work as a bilge pump (the anchor wash system requires a rather substantial pump anyway).
It's just a matter of fitting a 3-way valve - possibly electrically actuated, if you want a really posh setup!

 

[prv]

And since you're thinking to fit it, I'd suggest to install it in such way that it can also work as a bilge pump (the anchor wash system requires a rather substantial pump anyway).
It's just a matter of fitting a 3-way valve

I considered it, but decided not to. Unlike our old boat, which involved a lot of manual handling of the chain on deck and then stowing it under a bunk, the new one leads it straight off the windlass and down into a locker separate from the accommodation and drained overboard. The anchor also stows on the bow roller rather than being manually lifted and lashed down on chocks on the foredeck. So muddy ground tackle is less of a problem, and I'm not sure my co-owners would agree with an extra hole in the hull and the loss of locker space for the pump. If we get anything, it'll be one of those drop-over-the-side submersible pump kits with a short hose, but until then it's the traditional bucket for deck washing

Pete

 

[MapisM]

until then it's the traditional bucket for deck washing

LOL, nothing wrong with that.
If nothing else, beats any other system hands down from a reliability standpoint!

 

[prv]

If nothing else, beats any other system hands down from a reliability standpoint!

Until you let go of the rope

Pete

 

[jfm]

Oh yeah, it ain't a big deal for sure.
But the explanation is very simple: I never said that on boats where the anchor is not visible it's the hull that is poorly designed.
It's the ground tackle per se, that shouldn't just "made to fit" as you said, but rather made to work properly.
After all, I've yet to see a San Lorenzo or a Ferretti where this is a problem, and neither are known for designing bad hulls.
I'm saying this assuming that someone handles the anchor from the bow, of course.
What I understood from Deleted User is that he had an AZ where he couldn't see the final path of the anchor from anywhere onboaard (and I see his point, because that's a problem also in some newer AZ), and that in my books is a poorly designed ground tackle.

Not wishing to be controversial anyway, I accept that the AnCam (even nicer if shortened, imho ) is a nice toy.
If I should be controversial, I would argue that there's no place for hull windows in a hull "designed as a hull ie to deal with the sea"

OK happy to agree to disagree. Perhaps anyway we are at crossed purposes. On my boat you can of course go to the bow and operate the anchor in the long tried and tested way, and I have both a curly wire remote plus deck/footswitches for that. But the AnCan(! thanks) just gives me an extra choice, which is to do the whole thing single handed from the flybridge helm, and not burn up 10 mins of helper/crew time if they are better deployed somewhere else. It's just a matter of choice.

 

[jfm]

Could I please have an application form for the post of "Anchor washer off,er" !!!.....I am cheap to run, wont complain about the "working conditions" and don't eat much............(except chocolate)...

That's an excellent improvement Steve on Richard's idea, which is far too hi-tech and would not get production-certified by MapisM anyway . AND, by having you on board as "AnchorWasherOffer" the boat would also have its own onboard video editor (Gludy, eat your heart out!) so there would be a fab video diary record of every outing! Youtube and IPC would have to buy more server farms to handle it all

 

[jfm]

And here's Match spotted in the wild on Saturday:

Looks absolutely stunning, and goes well too

Cheers
Jimmy

Thanks for that pic Jimmy! Here's one taken at almost the same moment, looking back at you (as you tear away at 40kts!)

 

[jfm]

I'm actually kind of surprised that Match doesn't have an anchor wash system. It's a lot less exotic than a lot of the stuff she does have. I've even considered fitting one, albeit with manually-held hose rather than built-in nozzles, to our bog-standard (by comparison) sailing boat.

I guess in most of the intended anchorages the bottom is clean golden sand rather than stinking Solent mud

Pete

Match does have (fresh water - I dont want a saltwater system) wash at the anchor but it is a handheld curly hose inside the anchor locker lid with a trigger gun nozzle on the end. You can squirt it at the anchor (but I don't), wash the salt off the chain inside the locker, and wash the whole fordeck after hauling in dirty Med groundlines (that last one is a big deal). I deliberstely did not spec one of those so called automatic washers that spurts water onto the anchor as it is wound. They are pretty ineffective in my book at clearing weed/mud balls off the anchor, compared with dunking as per my video above

 

[jfm]

Another epic thread John, congrats on the boat and all you have achieved with the build; it is an education for the majority of us.

A small detail playing on my mind is why the emergancy fuel shutoff valves seem to be manual, or are there electric actuators on the end of those control cables?

On my (small by comparison) SeaRay all the fuel outlets have solenoid valves, which are spring return so if they are not being feed power they immediatly spring back to being closed. So I was just thinking if it was solonoid or actuator controlled then the fire system could auto shutdown the fuel supply in the event of a fire alert in the ER (with option to manually close them or feed power to them if required).

If you ever get a chance, it would be great if you could please share with us some close up pics of the switch panels at the lower helm, I for one am intreguied as to the layout, information, and controls that you have on that panel.

I am looking forward to Match 3, which should definatley be a Discovery Channel documentary!

Anthony

Anthony I'm not sure what is normal here but I've always had last-resort manual shut offs at the tank on all my boats, plus electric valves closer to the engines (hooked up to the SeaFire installation). I thought the manual vlaves were a CE requirement as well as a RINA item, but happy to be corrected on that. The manual vlaves are definitely an MCA (yellow book and mgn280) rerquirement at least on this sized boat.

I'll get you some pics of the electrical switching!

 

[wakeup]

JFM, surely under OB rules, the AWO (AnchorWasherOffer) should be female and wearing a thong (for health and safety reasons only so that no lose item of bikini ware can get caught up in the windlass).

 

[prv]

I deliberstely did not spec one of those so called automatic washers that spurts water onto the anchor as it is wound. They are pretty ineffective in my book at clearing weed/mud balls off the anchor, compared with dunking as per my video above

Ha - depends on the size of the system

On Stavros, the fire main overpressure discharges into the hawsepipes in order to double as a chain washer. The fire main is a 4" diameter pipe that runs all over the ship, with hydrants at intervals to which proper fire hoses (the same ones the fire brigade on shore use) can be coupled to fight a major blaze. I don't know what the capacity of the fire pumps is, but it's enough to run at least a couple of hose teams off the main. When none of the hydrants is open but the pumps are started, the excess pressure blasts out onto the chain, and it would be some pretty damn dedicated mud that stayed stuck on after that

Pete

 

[jfm]

JFM, surely under OB rules, the AWO (AnchorWasherOffer) should be female and wearing a thong (for health and safety reasons only so that no lose item of bikini ware can get caught up in the windlass).

Yup, roger all that

 

[jfm]

On Stavros...

Tee hee! Yup, that sounds a nice big boat system. That's the whole point: the little pumps you see on say 24m boats and that you can sensibly fit on such a boat, are a bit feeble. These spray washers only really work when you get the huge gush of water that you describe on Stavros, but there isn't the space/desire to fit that sort of system in a mere 24m boat, in which case you might as well not bother with anything, which is how I did (didn't) do it.

Stavros looks like quite a maintenance overhead. Strictly for a very dedicated owner! ...

 

[vas]

Stavros looks like quite a maintenance overhead. Strictly for a very rich owner! ...

here you are J, corrected for you

V.

 

[MapisM]

That's the whole point: the little pumps you see on say 24m boats and that you can sensibly fit on such a boat, are a bit feeble.

Well, fwiw I've only got a 24V/0.3hp pump, and while the system prv described is obviously in a different league, I never found mine to be not man enough, at least in the Med.
And that in spite of the fact that it's not very clever, because the flow is always split between both pockets/chains, even if of course only one anchor at a time is used.
Btw, I mentioned earlier that I thought this was standard equipment on a Sq78 because I would have sweared to have seen it also on your old 58.
I was obviously wrong, surely?

 

[MapisM]

here you are J, corrected for you

LOL, good point!
But I must say that out of all the rich people I came across, I never found one who would have even dreamed to own - let alone properly maintain - a vessel like that.
So, I suppose that some dedication is also in order, after all...
...though yours with Mythos belongs to another universe, of course!

 

[jfm]

Well, fwiw I've only got a 24V/0.3hp pump, and while the system prv described is obviously in a different league, I never found mine to be not man enough, at least in the Med.
And that in spite of the fact that it's not very clever, because the flow is always split between both pockets/chains, even if of course only one anchor at a time is used.
Btw, I mentioned earlier that I thought this was standard equipment on a Sq78 because I would have sweared to have seen it also on your old 58.
I was obviously wrong, surely?

On my 58 and both 78s i have specced a freshwater pumped supply in the anchor locker, with a curly hose (the ones like a big coil spring) and a "trigger gun" on the end. I use this for multiple tasks, like cleaning out the anchor locker and cleaning the foredeck after dirt is hauled in on ground lines. I have never wanted or specced one of those "anchor fountains" becuase I happen to think that dunking the anchor works better, and of course they tend to use saltwater which measns i still need to clean the anchor locker with freshwater.

Btw, i have all s/s anchor and chain and wouldn't spec anything else nowadays. This is so smooth and shiny the dirt falls off with very little effort, as you can see in the dunking in my youtube above

But each to their own: I'm not claiming to be right here*! I'm only saying what I reckon works best

*Apart from the AnCam, of course, LOL

 

[jfm]

here you are J, corrected for you

V.

Tee hee, yes it would be quite a money pit of course, but I'm with MapisM on this - the owner of such a ship mostly needs MiToS levels of dedication! Most owners also want somewhere to have lunch, which (call me a philistine) Stavors seems not to have. If i had a spare $100m kicking around I'd prefer Maltese Falcon tbh