Boat in build pics (2013 Fairline Squadron 78)

[jfm]

I have one of those in reserve Hurricane though as you can see from the video (at 1:21) I don't need it. The anchor flips the correct way round anyway, at 1:22, so long as you don't pull it too far into the hawse slot, which is a matter of practice. The only time you need that banana gadget is if the slot into which the anchor shank is pulled is too narrow to allow the Delta to flip itself the right way up, and then it's a great gadget. I might fit it anyway as it's a few extra kilos in the right place and makes things easier. Made by Osculati

 

[Nick_H]

The best anchoring gadget we've ever bought is a "Twist"

Seconded on the twist gadget, we've used one for years now and it's faultless. When single handed leaving an anchorage I just reverse a bit to pull the chain tight, the boat will then pull forward on the weight of the chain, then keep the windlass running as the boat moves forward until the anchor seats itself. The camera would be useful to see if there's a clump of mud/weed on the anchor though, so it's definitely a nice to have in my book.

 

[Hurricane]

jfm

Using the anchor camera, do you think you could drop it into sandy patch effectively.

 

[prv]

I might fit it anyway as it's a few extra kilos in the right place and makes things easier

What's the SWL on that thing?

Pete

 

[rafiki_]

I too like the anchor camera. This clearly takes some of the guesswork out. The Garmin screens look fantastic. Nice job.

 

[Tender_aft]

What gets me is just how much research and work you put into it all yourself. How do you find the time to make and source all of these little things that make it just how you want it? (obviously a rhetorical question).

I have two specific questions regarding the TV (if you don't mind?):
- "The actuator is...a catalogue item, switched by a RF remote" which catalogue?
- You made the surround and Fairline lacquered it....did you see just how they got it so smooth and shiny?...that's the finish I am looking for but even in Robbins, with their samples they don't seem to have it as nice as that.

 

[jfm]

Hi there. The answer I gotta say is just google, knowing what to search for, then internet shopping The actuator is eBay item 18102589766 and the remote is made up of 111027012445 receiver and 110927178524 transmitter. Plus relays etc. Those numbers may not work now, in the transient world of ebay but here is another example (though mine is 24v, but you get the idea). http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Spee...utomation_Control_ET&var=&hash=item1c3392366f

Google "linear actuator" and there is lots of choice

Fairline spray about 8 coats of lacquer with hand sanding in between coats, and the top layer is hand buffed. This gives a high gloss, like a black piano. It's handy that they agreed to do this as I could not do it! All the dark wenge wood on the boat is finished this way, and contrasts nicely with the satin walnut. It's a pretty labour intensive process but adds a nice luxury feel

 

[jfm]

jfm

Using the anchor camera, do you think you could drop it into sandy patch effectively.

Perhaps, but surely it is easier just to see the sandy patch directly from the flybridge helm using mk1 eyeball and polarised sunglasses? The anchor camera is all about knowing the thing is paying out and isn't jammed, and to observe the chain angle as the anchor comes in, wash the anchor if needed by dunking (as per video), and see that it clunks back into the hawse slot properly. Hence the set up, field of view. etc

 

[jfm]

Seconded on the twist gadget, we've used one for years now and it's faultless. When single handed leaving an anchorage I just reverse a bit to pull the chain tight, the boat will then pull forward on the weight of the chain, then keep the windlass running as the boat moves forward until the anchor seats itself. The camera would be useful to see if there's a clump of mud/weed on the anchor though, so it's definitely a nice to have in my book.

Yup, but your anchor comes right onto the foredeck Nick, so you can see it as it enters the slot. Mine is in the stem of the boat, so is never visible from the fly helm, hence I have more use for the camera than you

 

[MapisM]

I don't agree at all with the idea of throttle levers right at the foredeck. Maybe you mean a handheld remote? Each to their own, but I prefer the camera to either fixed or handheld remotes.

Yep, 'course a handheld remote is what I meant, but that was just in the context of the objections re. singlehanding, which I suppose isn't very likely on a boat like yours, anyway.
Surely it isn't on mine, because aside from not being interested myself in going at sea alone with her, it would be against her registration requirements not to have at least one crew member, aside from a licensed helmsman.
So, as I said, in practice I just stay at the bow and operate the windlass, with swmbo at the helm following my instructions.
And I honestly can't imagine how even a 3D video coverage of the bow p) could work better than my own eyes to understand what's going on.
Anyhow, of course we can agree to disagree on this, no big deal.

Otoh, I'm afraid that your following point is wrong regardless of opinions.
And I won't even explain why, because I'm sure you'll understand that just by re-reading my statement and your reply...

Otoh, I see your point re. being difficult to see the anchor in some boats, though I'd be tempted to call it a poor design, at least to some extent...

I don't agree. The hull should be designed as a hull ie to deal with the sea, and the guard rails for safety plus aesthetics. Then the anchor has to be made to fit. Designing the hull around being able to see the anchor isn't the way to do it, imho

 

[jfm]

we can agree to disagree on this, no big deal.

Yup

And I won't even explain why, because I'm sure you'll understand

I honestly do not understand. Maybe it is no big deal so we can leave it and I'm happy to, but if it is a big deal you're gonna have to explain why please!

I must say, I'm surprised that something as innocent as an AnchorCam TM, which you don't even have to use, can cause so much controversy

 

[Anthony]

Another epic thread John, congrats on the boat and all you have achieved with the build; it is an education for the majority of us.

A small detail playing on my mind is why the emergancy fuel shutoff valves seem to be manual, or are there electric actuators on the end of those control cables?

On my (small by comparison) SeaRay all the fuel outlets have solenoid valves, which are spring return so if they are not being feed power they immediatly spring back to being closed. So I was just thinking if it was solonoid or actuator controlled then the fire system could auto shutdown the fuel supply in the event of a fire alert in the ER (with option to manually close them or feed power to them if required).

If you ever get a chance, it would be great if you could please share with us some close up pics of the switch panels at the lower helm, I for one am intreguied as to the layout, information, and controls that you have on that panel.

I am looking forward to Match 3, which should definatley be a Discovery Channel documentary!

Anthony

 

[STEVEDUNSTABLE]

One more vid of a sail into a very nice sunset in Baie Des Anges, 19kts, and showing how the dash red illumination turned out...

WOW JFM.......dash looks stunning and as for the sunset, double WOW !!!..........as you know, I,ve done that exact trip so obviously, I,m not jealous atall........................................ (much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)..... ENJOY !!!!!! and more vids please as n when !!!

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

And here's Match spotted in the wild on Saturday:

Looks absolutely stunning, and goes well too

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[MapisM]

I honestly do not understand. Maybe it is no big deal so we can leave it and I'm happy to, but if it is a big deal you're gonna have to explain why please!

I must say, I'm surprised that something as innocent as an AnchorCam TM, which you don't even have to use, can cause so much controversy

Oh yeah, it ain't a big deal for sure.
But the explanation is very simple: I never said that on boats where the anchor is not visible it's the hull that is poorly designed.
It's the ground tackle per se, that shouldn't just "made to fit" as you said, but rather made to work properly.
After all, I've yet to see a San Lorenzo or a Ferretti where this is a problem, and neither are known for designing bad hulls.
I'm saying this assuming that someone handles the anchor from the bow, of course.
What I understood from Deleted User is that he had an AZ where he couldn't see the final path of the anchor from anywhere onboaard (and I see his point, because that's a problem also in some newer AZ), and that in my books is a poorly designed ground tackle.

Not wishing to be controversial anyway, I accept that the AnCam (even nicer if shortened, imho ) is a nice toy.
If I should be controversial, I would argue that there's no place for hull windows in a hull "designed as a hull ie to deal with the sea"

 

[MapisM]

Looks absolutely stunning

+1.
But what's the grey stuff on the very top of the radar arch?
Maybe J didn't tell us of a missile control system which was part of the customization?

 

[Richard Shead]

Perhaps, but surely it is easier just to see the sandy patch directly from the flybridge helm using mk1 eyeball and polarised sunglasses? The anchor camera is all about knowing the thing is paying out and isn't jammed, and to observe the chain angle as the anchor comes in, wash the anchor if needed by dunking (as per video), and see that it clunks back into the hawse slot properly. Hence the set up, field of view. etc

To be fair I think there is room for improvement here..

With the camera mounted to starboard and in the interests of symmetry you could perhaps install a pressure washer inside the anchor locker with a pipe (carbon of course) which extends (hydraulically of course) out to the very tip of the anchor. In this you could have the nozzle of the pressure washer (detergent bottle optional) pointing directly at the anchor and at the flick of a switch it could wash away any dirt / weed / fish / bikini tops that said anchor may have picked up during its journey back up...I see this as an option on future models.

 

[STEVEDUNSTABLE]

To be fair I think there is room for improvement here..

With the camera mounted to starboard and in the interests of symmetry you could perhaps install a pressure washer inside the anchor locker with a pipe (carbon of course) which extends (hydraulically of course) out to the very tip of the anchor. In this you could have the nozzle of the pressure washer (detergent bottle optional) pointing directly at the anchor and at the flick of a switch it could wash away any dirt / weed / fish / bikini tops that said anchor may have picked up during its journey back up...I see this as an option on future models.

Could I please have an application form for the post of "Anchor washer off,er" !!!.....I am cheap to run, wont complain about the "working conditions" and don't eat much............(except chocolate)...

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

+1.
But what's the grey stuff on the very top of the radar arch?
Maybe J didn't tell us of a missile control system which was part of the customization?

It's a building on the hill behind...

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[MapisM]

Doh! Funny that it had to be right in such position...