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dylanwinter

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apologies - irony

Confused of Norfolk here, Dylan is this a complete re-write of the normal Dylan mantra, buy anything and have fun?

I havn't seen you suggesting big expensive boats for novices before, or have I just completely missunderstood this post?

you are dead right

bit of irony

but the poster had already emailed me and successfully blagged a free sub to KTL

so he is starting out in just the right way for a parsimonious east coaster



bilge/drop keelers for the East coast really opne up the sailing areas

slightly crazy to have anything else

I had a deep keeler over there and soon developed a fear of bottom contact (fnaa fnaa boarding school)

I had some lovely sailing experineces on the Thames, the big traffic all added to the pleasure

as for the boat identification, I suspect we are all prevaricating because we cannot identify it

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Sorry to get back to the original question, but could it be a Prelude?
The windows don't look quite right though.
 

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Nope not a PRELUDE

Actually got a mate with one:

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Did Seamasters have a bilge keeled version? I know they did a drop keel version in the Seamaster23, I nearly bought one before I spotted my Westerly.

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Yes

from the website where DanTribe found the picture

Designed by Laurent Giles & Partners in 1970 this sloop was available from the factory in many forms:
fixed keel with centre plate, fin keel or bilge keels.​

But as LS says they are round bilged....... the hard chine may be an optical illusion in the original picture but if its really is then that is the Seamaster out of the frame.
 

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Nope. I was wrong about the windows. The OP's pic the after end of the window is not vertical whereas the Seamaster has vertical after window ends.
 

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Nope. I was wrong about the windows. The OP's pic the after end of the window is not vertical whereas the Seamaster has vertical after window ends.

On second thoughts the cabin front does not look quite right either
 

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Yes

from the website where DanTribe found the picture

Designed by Laurent Giles & Partners in 1970 this sloop was available from the factory in many forms:
fixed keel with centre plate, fin keel or bilge keels.​

But as LS says they are round bilged....... the hard chine may be an optical illusion in the original picture but if its really is then that is the Seamaster out of the frame.

Yep it's defiantly a hard chine as I popped in to see it this after noon as I was down their way. I took some more pics of it but the forum is being mean and not posting anything I write on here at the moment :( Things I posted a day or two ago still aren't on here yet. Or they may never appear... so in that case.. I'm talking to myself here :mad:

Ohh and the seller says it's 18 ft.





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No closer to recognising it I am afraid.

Pretty old I should think. Older than any info I have that might ID it.

The transom looks as though it might have been based on the design of a motor boat hull and the hard chine is typical of early grp boats built by taking a mould off a plywood hull.

I doubt if its sailing performance will be anything to write home about but you never know. Hard chines can get a good grip on the water and give a good windward sail. If it carries enough sail it might go reasonably well.

Trouble may be that when the time comes to sell you might find that difficult.
A well known and popular class would, on that score, be a more sensible first buy.
 
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No closer to recognising it I am afraid.

Pretty old I should think. Older than any info I have that might ID it.

The transom looks as though it might have been based on the design of a motor boat hull and the hard chine is typical of early grp boats built by taking a mould off a plywood hull.

I doubt if its sailing performance will be anything to write home about but you never know. Hard chines can get a good grip on the water and give a good windward sail. If it carries enough sail it might go reasonably well.

Trouble may be that when the time comes to sell you might find that difficult.
A well known and popular class would, on that score, be a more sensible first buy.

Yes I think you're right..thanks for the advice.

Also William H was right too.. I sat in it and I think 18 ft would be good for just me and a Frey Bentos, but if I did want to take the clan out it would be a bit of a squeeze.

Now I just have to find a leisure 23 bilge keel'r that's cheap as chips :) I do like the look of them inside. The draft difference from an 18 to 23 ft shouldn't be that different should it?
 

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Yes I think you're right..thanks for the advice.

Also William H was right too.. I sat in it and I think 18 ft would be good for just me and a Frey Bentos, but if I did want to take the clan out it would be a bit of a squeeze.

Now I just have to find a leisure 23 bilge keel'r that's cheap as chips :) I do like the look of them inside. The draft difference from an 18 to 23 ft shouldn't be that different should it?

I would not get hung up on anyone boat, I like the one in picture some how she looks to my eye to have nice lines.

I agree if you want to get all your family afloat a bigger would have advantages.

http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives.htm

Has lots of good information, do not get blinkered to one boat to easy.

I would suggest a Trident 24 http://www.trident24.com/, but I am biased.


Also do not be afraid to offer ALLOT Less than asking price. Keep looking.
 
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