Boat delivery from Scotland to South coast?

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Can anyone recommend a cost effective solution to getting a 27' fin keel yacht from West Scotland to South coast (Poole). I would sail her down if it was earlier in the year but a bit nervous about doing it now.
Had a quote for trucking of £2400 which I can't really afford.
 

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Can anyone recommend a cost effective solution to getting a 27' fin keel yacht from West Scotland to South coast (Poole). I would sail her down if it was earlier in the year but a bit nervous about doing it now.
Had a quote for trucking of £2400 which I can't really afford.
That is about right. I paid £1500 for the truck from Neyland to Poole (240 miles) 31' this time last year plus £500 for dropping the mast and loading boat onto truck and £200 to offload this end. I got about 6 quotes and they were all within +/- 10%. You might get it a bit cheaper if you can wait for a "Return load" where the trucker has a job in the reverse and would otherwise have an empty truck on the return. However you need to have the boat out of the water stripped and ready as such deals are usually time limited.
 

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Maybe someone with a suitable trailer?
OK, it was many years ago now, but I used to tow a 25ft home built Folkboat on a home built trailer, behind a fairly old Land rover, back and forward across Scotland.
 

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If the cost of road transport is an issue then why not wait? Winter berthing likely to be cheaper in Scotland, and after a few shakedown trips could be a lovely voyage South in May next year?
We bought a boat in La Rochelle and enjoyed the slow sail home the following year.
I considered that, but I don't feel up to the 800 mile journey and maybe 10 days away from home.
 

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That is about right. I paid £1500 for the truck from Neyland to Poole (240 miles) 31' this time last year plus £500 for dropping the mast and loading boat onto truck and £200 to offload this end. I got about 6 quotes and they were all within +/- 10%. You might get it a bit cheaper if you can wait for a "Return load" where the trucker has a job in the reverse and would otherwise have an empty truck on the return. However you need to have the boat out of the water stripped and ready as such deals are usually time limited.
I just got a quote for £1200 + VAT, which is do-able, so I might organise it for early next year and leave her on the mooring until then.
 

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I just got a quote for £1200 + VAT, which is do-able, so I might organise it for early next year and leave her on the mooring until then.
That sounds like either a back load or a flat bed possibly with a Hiab. That size and weight is on the cusp of needing a low loader when the cost jumps. Assume your move is permanent, in which case it is worth paying the transport as transaction costs of selling and buying will almost certainly exceed the cost of moving - even assuming you could find a decent boat down here. Best to get the boat down as soon as you move as there is nothing worse than having a boat 500 miles away through the winter. Also gives you a good excuse to escape the odd day from new house chores. Good luck.
 

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Just wondering what the cost would be by sea for a delivery crew. You might also be up yourself for a leg or two.
Using a professional crew will not be any cheaper. You have their day rate, any expenses and probably a bunch of stuff they feel needs done/fixed before such a voyage. Could be a great way to learn the boat / sort any issues though.

I looked at the costs for doing the journey in the opposite direction when I was buying and the transport quotes are the right ball park. My plan would have been to sail it round slowly getting it to somewhere with coach or train link every weekend and over the course of 6-8 weeks get it where I wanted. Marina fees for storing if in the interim weeks and travel costs to from the boat don’t make this a cheap option.
 

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If you did sail the boat down yourself you could widen your weather window by making for Northern Ireland first, then sailing down the Irish East Coast, where, apart from the North Channel, the tides are much less in strength and magnitude, there are no tidal gates, and even with a strong offshore wind, the seas will be flat.
You could make a quick blast as far as Kilmore Quay, leave the boat in the very secure marina for a while, taking the ferry and train to get home, then come back after a bit of a break until a suitable window appears for completion of the journey.
 

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That sounds like either a back load or a flat bed possibly with a Hiab. That size and weight is on the cusp of needing a low loader when the cost jumps. Assume your move is permanent, in which case it is worth paying the transport as transaction costs of selling and buying will almost certainly exceed the cost of moving - even assuming you could find a decent boat down here. Best to get the boat down as soon as you move as there is nothing worse than having a boat 500 miles away through the winter. Also gives you a good excuse to escape the odd day from new house chores. Good luck.
Hey, thanks for that reassurance. I'm in turmoil as to whether to slash another £2k off the selling price or spend 2K getting her down here. I'm thinking more and more that It's better to move her down but I'm not up to sailing that distance myself. Also, as in my separate post, Poole Harbour isn't the best place for a fin keeler so maybe I would have difficulty selling her down here.
 

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Hey, thanks for that reassurance. I'm in turmoil as to whether to slash another £2k off the selling price or spend 2K getting her down here. I'm thinking more and more that It's better to move her down but I'm not up to sailing that distance myself. Also, as in my separate post, Poole Harbour isn't the best place for a fin keeler so maybe I would have difficulty selling her down here.
I'm sure buyers from other parts of the south coast would come to Poole to buy.
 

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No problem. Your are wrong in thinking you could not sell it in Poole. 1.5m draft is no constraint. Your problem with selling is much the same - old boats don't fetch much money unless they are exceptional. Suspect that price is not an issue - more likely your location limits the market. If you like the boat and want to continue using it then bring it down. Lots of good sailing from Poole - east, west and south. Just be aware that running costs will be higher than where you are now. If you want to sell out and stop boating, sell it there (or even give it away!). Otherwise spend the £2k and enjoy using it in perhaps the nicest part of the south coast. Contact the clubs O referred to in the other thread, and see which would fit your style of sailing.
 

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That sounds like either a back load or a flat bed possibly with a Hiab. That size and weight is on the cusp of needing a low loader when the cost jumps. Assume your move is permanent, in which case it is worth paying the transport as transaction costs of selling and buying will almost certainly exceed the cost of moving - even assuming you could find a decent boat down here. Best to get the boat down as soon as you move as there is nothing worse than having a boat 500 miles away through the winter. Also gives you a good excuse to escape the odd day from new house chores. Good luck.
Yes, it would be a backload but I don't have any date constraints. As a dedicated trip it would be £1500. I'm surprised there isn't more difference.
 

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No problem. Your are wrong in thinking you could not sell it in Poole. 1.5m draft is no constraint. Your problem with selling is much the same - old boats don't fetch much money unless they are exceptional. Suspect that price is not an issue - more likely your location limits the market. If you like the boat and want to continue using it then bring it down. Lots of good sailing from Poole - east, west and south. Just be aware that running costs will be higher than where you are now. If you want to sell out and stop boating, sell it there (or even give it away!). Otherwise spend the £2k and enjoy using it in perhaps the nicest part of the south coast. Contact the clubs O referred to in the other thread, and see which would fit your style of sailing.
You're right. I think maybe the problem is there are so many secondhand boats available at the moment. She is pretty nice though, brand new standing rigging, lovely recent Beta engine.Main4 small.jpg
 

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If you did sail the boat down yourself you could widen your weather window by making for Northern Ireland first, then sailing down the Irish East Coast, where, apart from the North Channel, the tides are much less in strength and magnitude, there are no tidal gates, and even with a strong offshore wind, the seas will be flat.
You could make a quick blast as far as Kilmore Quay, leave the boat in the very secure marina for a while, taking the ferry and train to get home, then come back after a bit of a break until a suitable window appears for completion of the journey.
That certainly sounds tempting.
 

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I brought my Moody 31 down from the Clyde to the East Coast (Titchmarsh Marine) starting end of March. It took 3 weeks, given stops for rest, weather and waiting to pick up crew. Two of us did most of it; we had my wife as extra crew for the legs up to Dunstaffnage at the start, and a denizen of these fora for the last legs from Whitby to Titchmarsh. Basically, we sailed about 14 days out of 21. Mostly under engine - we suffered persistent headwinds, except for one memorable passage up the sound of Jura racing ahead of a gale!
 

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You're right. I think maybe the problem is there are so many secondhand boats available at the moment. She is pretty nice though, brand new standing rigging, lovely recent Beta engine.
If you plan to continue sailing then you'd be mad to sell her.

You're not going to be able to buy a better boat than that down south - because of the new engine and standing rigging, doing so would leave you more than £2000 out of pocket.
 
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