Blue water weather kit

[Talbot]

A Radio Ham is not allowed to talk to you if you are not a Ham (even if you have the proper GMDSS Long range certificate. Also you are not supposed to have a radio that works on the ham freqs unless you have the ham licence.

On the other hand you are not supposed to have the radio on the boat inless you have the HF declared on the ship's boat licence, and I dont think you are supposed to use it on the boat (even as a radio ham) without the appropriate GMDSS long range cert.

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[Anonymous]

>>There is a more specific ITU publication available entitled " Manual for use by the Maritime Mobile and Maritime Mobile-Satellite Services" <<

Do you know whether that is available on the internet? I have gooled on the title you gave and have found the itu website which only seems to provide an order form - the manual costs CHF 60. Interestingly, the ITU site states "As prescribed in Appendix 16 of the Radio Regulations, the Manual is required to be
carried in stations on board ships."

Does that mean that every yacht is 'required' to carry one, or is a yacht not a 'ship' in this context? If so, do yachts need a 'Ship Radio Licence' at all?

By the way, in view of your other comments, please let me assure you that none of my comments are intended to be personal to individuals although I confess I do wonder about some of the organisations.

Incidentally, the notion that we should not expect to understand the letter of the regulations but instead ask permission to do whatever it is we want to do is very strange. I can't think of any other regulating authority that behaves like that and I personally find that unacceptable if, indeed, it is actually the case in law.

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[Talbot]

I think more people might be interested in taking the long range cert if they could do so through evening class at their local college (and at normal evening class rates), Alternatively through some correspondence course. At the moment it is restricted to a few specialist colleges and costs nearly as much as a S/H SSB.

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[Roberto]

**On the other hand you are not supposed to have the radio on the boat inless you have the HF declared on the ship's boat licence, and I dont think you are supposed to use it on the boat (even as a radio ham) without the appropriate GMDSS long range cert.***

I am not sure about this: the BR68 regulation covering amateur radio includes "a vessel at sea" as an accepted location for a amateur radio station, and only stipulates that the "operator must cease operation at the vessel master demand"
I would read it : basically you can bring a ham radio aboard and operate it, the amateur licence being sufficient; no mention is made of the ship licence.

Also, quite a few people operate amateur stations from cruise ships, they would have notified this to the captain but I do not think their radio would appear on the ship raido licence

all imho

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[Mike_Martin]

Now there's a thought and a good one at that! I would suggest that it is an issue that the RYA might wish to take up with MCA who control the administration of Operator certificates.

Mike

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[Mike_Martin]

I think that it is well understood that Pleasure Craft (or as officially know Voluntary Fit vessels) are able due to their status within SOLAS to not have to carry all of the documentation required by SOLSA vessels. For info this also includes List V, List of Ship Stations which is a roughly 6 inch thick volume detailing callsigns, MMSIs and vessel names.

As to your last comment if you just look up the meaning of licence it will tend to explain my statement.

Mike

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Maritime & Aeronautical Team, Ofcom

 

[robmurray]

Wow looks like Ive stirred up a hornets nest! I currently have an ICS Navtex / Weatherfax2 which works perfectly well but is not dual frequency. The new equivalent is much more expensive which is why I was going for LCD NAvtex plus the lap top. Should I just keep what Ive got?

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[trouville]

The problem is that Marine SSB is ment for commercial shipping and real emergencys
Amature equipment is ment to be/can be modified experimental home built and each amature is responsiable for remaining within the licence conditions--on a boat its ment to work and not slatter drift or interfer. Today if you buy an icom or yaesu 1000mp fro example its more stable than a maratime rig Icom had problems with their 706es which splatered everwhere the new 706mk11g ??? the discontinued kenwood ts50 has a rotten reciver(frontend) But you can buy and broadband a small(unlike the massive mp100) ts 140 for about £250 in supercondition with an ATU or yeasu 757 768 not the 747 that drifts badly then your amature and marine and marine frequencise are better becouse the better possisiond and there arnt many fishermen left without a sat phone!!!!Amaters are like old woman and worse they just repeat their calls over and over just becouse they cant think of anything to sa y but that jams the band!!!!!Amaters transmitt the calls pointlessly with 1000+++ watts!!!

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