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So I was right lots punters from Wolverhampton clutching their savings and wearing string vests and Sandles with socks in charge of a Lagoon 42 with a Rya cert coastal,banging their way into a berth ?
The good news is that cats are the most manœuvrable of craft....each engine is so far apart that it can turn without effort....the bad news is that they are big and heavy and pushing them off things isn’t easy....I am berthed next to a cat hire company...and I watch a lot
 

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The good news is that cats are the most manœuvrable of craft....each engine is so far apart that it can turn without effort....the bad news is that they are big and heavy and pushing them off things isn’t easy....I am berthed next to a cat hire company...and I watch a lot

And an awful lot of windage, which can add yet more entertainment to proceedings!
 

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Lagoon 42 beam 7.7m, 8 berth gives .96m quayside per person.

Similar LOA Bav has beam of 3.99m and has 6 berths giving .66m quayside per person.

Given the limiting factor of flotilla size is likely to be room in harbours it looks like the flot companies can get 50% more people on a flotilla of monohulls. So unless they charge 50% more per person for the cats they would lose out, no????

Someone correct my back of a napkin maths!
 

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Wansworth is more concerned about them using paper serviettes than nice linen napkins, I think. Seriously, not much wring with the maths, but if the client has the cash to pay 1.5 times as much, it all adds up. And cats do make good swim party boats. They’ve got to be good at something or people wouldn‘t pay the extra.
 

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My feeling is that the cat would be more relaxing in moderate conditions but the keeled boat better when the going gets tough
I think you may well be right. The motion on a cat is different, and some will find it easier, others harder to deal with, but if a cat tips you out of bed, it's all gone VERY wrong. OTOH, the serious rough weather sailors do tend to have monohulls

I don't want to do more than gently tease the unenlightened who sail half boats ;) After all, I was one until last year but, of course, like the ex smoker, I'm bound to be a bit evangelical about my new-found wisdom ...
 

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Had to chip in here. My monohull is for sale and I take the keys to my Lagoon 42 this Friday in Malta. We loved the monohull but for us the space and overall comfort of the cat while leisurely cruising around the med sold it to me. The idea to change came after numerous swelly anchorages this season caused us lack of sleep whereas the anchored cats looked to be handling things far better!
 

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Congratulations!!

Had to chip in here. My monohull is for sale and I take the keys to my Lagoon 42 this Friday in Malta. We loved the monohull but for us the space and overall comfort of the cat while leisurely cruising around the med sold it to me. The idea to change came after numerous swelly anchorages this season caused us lack of sleep whereas the anchored cats looked to be handling things far better!
 

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The harbour masters charge extra for cats so they get the same money from their quay for less work. The last few years it’s become increasingly difficult to charter a small yacht as the charter companies are moving their fleets to cats and larger monos. Greece is no different from Croatia in that respect. Not sure about Turkey but no surprise if that’s also true over there. I think it also reflects a change in the charter market - holidaymakers are looking for more “Below Decks Bling” than a “Swallows and Amazons Adventure”.

The harbour masters couldn't care less about their quay's income, they're on a fixed state salary. In Greece, charter boats pay less for mooring than privately-owned boats, so the existence of chartered cats (probably 98% of the cats encountered) is probably a net loss to town quays. Personally, I am disgusted by them -- a port that could otherwise accommodate a healthy number of 30-40 ft monohulls is frequently taken over by only three or four 50+ foot chartered cats.
 
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