Beneteau Oceanis 40 cc

[xstucker]

I am considering purchasing one of these. The specification looks perfect for me, but I have no experience of them. Does anyone have any opinions on Build Quality, Sailing Performance, or convenience of the layout etc?

Any thoughts are welcome, especially from owners.

Thanks, Simon

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[bruce]

i have no exp with the boat, but the numbers are not the best, capsize ratio of 1.92 compaired to a crealock 40 with its 1.72, 8.1 hull speed, but motion comfort valus of 25.77 is right there with a 25' boat, and crealocks value of over 40 for motion comfort. would appear that boat would be faster but may be much less comfortable at anchor or heavy weather. something to think about...

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[Ric]

Before people can answer your question honestly, you need to give us a better idea of where you intend to sail, and what you have sailed before.

Boats like Beneteau's and Jeanneau's are popular because they successfully blend the right mixture of performance and comfort for most of the market. Unless you have very set ideas about where you want to sail or what you want from a boat, I am sure you will not be disappointed.

Having sailed one once I remember it being very fast and perfectly comfortable and competent in the conditions we faced.

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[Ric]

Capsize ratio of 1.92 is fine. I doubt the OP is heading off to the southern oceans. Why lumber around in some over-ballasted, low-freeboard, wet, narrowboat on all those fine sunny days (which let's face it is when most of us want to sail) "just in case" he happens to be stupid enough to get caught out in the storm of the century and get hit by a freak wave?

Likewise comfort figure is fine for a cruiser. It might be a little less comfortable than some heavyweight long-keeler on a six week haul through the southern Atlantic - but I doubt he wants to do that. More likely he just wants to cruise with friends and family around the south coast or the Med.

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[xstucker]

Thanks to both Bruce and Ric for the replies. The statistics are certainly interesting, so I will do some more comparison on that basis.

I sold my Beneteau First 35s5 last year, and have been looking for something more comfortable and with a bit less canvas so that I can easily take my family sailing.

I plan to purchase in the Caribbean, sail there for a few holidays, and then bring her back to the UK to sail around the South-Coast and France.

I am dithering between this and a Jeanneau SO 42.2.

Thanks again. Simon

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[wiggy]

When you look for the right boat all the figure are fine but is comfort undr sail more important that comfort in harbour, Ben's are great at doing what they are designed for-sailing well, comfortable when parked and easy to live with, they arent designed for extreme conditions and crossing oceans.

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[Peppermint]

Re: Have the deepest keel/rudder option

Shoal draft keels don't work on tubby boats like this.



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[BustinAround]

Re: Have the deepest keel/rudder option

I agree, I sailed a beneteau 50 with the shallow keel across the atlantic, what a pig!! It only sailed at about 55 degrees to the wind and made about 10 leeway too!

Always always the deep keel, so much more comfortable

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[robp]

Re: Have the deepest keel/rudder option

Was it an option on the 40CC? Didn't think it was.

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[walker]

Excuse my ignorance, but where do these numbers come from? Are they available for all boats?

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[charles_reed]

The Janneau

certainly has an easier motion at sea and IMHO is the more desirable boat

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[Robin]

Here

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.sailingusa.info/design_winds.htm>http://www.sailingusa.info/design_winds.htm</A>

Use with commonsense, unless you believe that boats should be designed by accountants!

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[bruce]

mine came from "http://www.image-ination.com/sailcalc.html" if you can't get it, send your email add. and will forward the home page to you.

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[catseyes]

Hi Bruce
See you have an Oceanis 40cc - me too for 5 months.
How to empty the port fresh water tank is a mystery. Any advice ?
my email ph.cunningham@btinternet.com
Regards
Paul

 

[TQA]

I am considering purchasing one of these. The specification looks perfect for me, but I have no experience of them. Does anyone have any opinions on Build Quality, Sailing Performance, or convenience of the layout etc?

Any thoughts are welcome, especially from owners.

Thanks, Simon

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I looked at one with a view to buying it as a Caribbean liveaboard.

Good layout but the aft cabin bed while excellent for sleeping in is a pig to get out of with creaky knees as it is low.

Very good aft cabin bathroom.

Much of the teakwork needed replacing and I have since been aboard another also from the mid 90s with the same problem.

It met my criteria in general as a fast boat which could be singlehanded and was a comfortable liveaboard at anchor.

 

[asteven221]

Personally I would ignore all the mumbo jumbo maths, and if you like it and the condition is right etc...etc... just buy it.

If you are new to this forum you will discover that there are deep seated prejudicies about different styles of boats. So if you like a boat that's in the style of "X", then the people from style "Y" will give you all sorts of reasons not to buy it. Ignore them unless you're a navel architect or you are very interested in hull science etc.... If you're like me who couldn't give a toss about science and just want to go sailing, I would recommend that you let the manufacturers worry about all the equations. On balance, they are most likely going to know what they are doing. IMHO just buy what you like, albeit there is nothing wrong with getting impartial advice.

Sadly, on this forum, it can be quite hard to get advice without an agenda, which sadly seems to be old = seaworthy & ocean going as opposed to new = caravan, unsafe at sea and best to be kept in a marina for sunny days. Clearly that's just plain crazy. Beware!

BTW I have no particular experience of the 40CC other that the fact that if I was looking for a CC boat, it would defo be on my list to consider. I would not expect any problems with a 40CC that you wouldn't get with any other boat from any manufacturer.

 

[srah1953]

It seems to me, possibly I'm unique but unlikely, is that far more time is spent in harbour, in marinas, messing about, hanging out, etc, than actual sailing time, even on the annual cruise, that comfort in harbour is probably of more importance than comfort sailing!
I'm also curious in relation to the comment on undesirability of shoal draft. Has the same boat with a deep keel been sailed in similar circumstances for a valid comparison? Lots of world cruising boats (eg French aluminium ones) don't have any keel at all !!!!
As I'm thinking of changing to a shoal draft, I'm quite interested in comments on this.

 

[robp]

Has anyone noticed the original date of this thread?

 

[Courageous]

Yes Rob - is there an issue with that? Often interests me when people make statements like that as AFAIK there's no sell by date on a conversation.......

 

[robp]

Yes Rob - is there an issue with that? Often interests me when people make statements like that as AFAIK there's no sell by date on a conversation.......

I have no issue whatsoever. Just that some posters are probably trying to be helpful over what they didn't realise was a six year old enquiry.

On the other hand I wonder if we were standing in a bar talking and a similar comment were made, would you respond like that? I think not.