powerskipper
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I have now heard of 7 boats picking up nets around their props recently. So someone out there must be missing a load of netting.
Be extra careful guys and girls
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sarabande
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where please ?
Bandit
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I have heard but not verified that french fishermen that loose gear at sea get a grant to replace it , if true that would account for some of it?
powerskipper
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oceanfroggie
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Rope cutters on shafts help get you home. Outdrives legs can be lifted, but IPS requires a lift or diver.
nicho
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Problem is Julie, how can you spot netting at 20+ knots? We recently went to Dartmouth and back, and kept a wary eye out, but I guess a lot of it is down to the luck of the draw.
Giblets
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During our little patrolette from Pompy to Langstone entrance and back on Saturday afternoon we picked up five of those very nice, heavy duty, yellow plastic shellfish bags (empty 
) floating just below the surface so hopefully will have saved someone's prop. We do have our uses.
) floating just below the surface so hopefully will have saved someone's prop. We do have our uses.
oGaryo
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having never had the misfortune of having tangled the prop in my short experience as a boater, what happens when travelling at a rate of knots????.. catastrophic dead stop with whiplash, rattling of bones etc or something a little less abrupt? Just interested in what symptoms to watch out for should / when it happens to me?
PaulGooch
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I know someone who picked a rope up on a Princess 35, that tore the engine off the mountings and buggered the gearbox.
PowerYachtBlog
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Yes even in Malta I think the number I have is also 7. But is not just nets, ropes, big plastics etc etc
timgriffin
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Came back from Alderney on Sunday and one of our group got nets round one of his props limped home to the Isle of Wight , Sea start came out organised divers who cleared the props.
Lots of green weed flotsam mid channel and it collects all the rubbish with it, hard trying to avoid it all as so much of it.
Tim
maverickofpoole
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As said it's not just nets. We picked up a large industrial strength black plastic bag round the prop off Weymouth 2 weeks ago. Stopped the boat dead in the water. Was a nightmare to remove even on a leg but once off we were fine hopefully with no long term damage. We also saw a large hard plastic container/fish box floating just below the surface that we just missed. That was bright yellow in colour but still not easy to see. Would have made a right mess of the boat and prop
Martin
Martin
ChrisKaye
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It was me who picked up this rope on the way back from Alderney on Sunday doing 25knots, like Tim said limped home on one engine at 6/8knts and this the **** that the divers cut away from my port prop on Monday morning 8.30am.
Seastart were brill many thanks to them, they suggested we grab a buoy off Yarmouth, but it was blowing there a bit and difficult to get close to it, then when the extending boathook extended too far and dropped in the water we gave up on that idea. Then anchored off Newtown Creek for Billy from SeaStart to get his underwater camera out and confirm we were snagged. He followed us to E Cowes and nudged us into a hammerhead berth there and sorted out divers for next morning. I was too shattered to even get drunk !
Just pleased to get the boat back on its berth at Island Harbour the following day, so I havent tested it out again at normal speeds, although steering feels very stiff and stbd rudder makes a groaning sound when steering.
Should I get the boat lifted and checked over and will I have done any damage to engine / gearbox / sterngear ??
Seastart were brill many thanks to them, they suggested we grab a buoy off Yarmouth, but it was blowing there a bit and difficult to get close to it, then when the extending boathook extended too far and dropped in the water we gave up on that idea. Then anchored off Newtown Creek for Billy from SeaStart to get his underwater camera out and confirm we were snagged. He followed us to E Cowes and nudged us into a hammerhead berth there and sorted out divers for next morning. I was too shattered to even get drunk !
Just pleased to get the boat back on its berth at Island Harbour the following day, so I havent tested it out again at normal speeds, although steering feels very stiff and stbd rudder makes a groaning sound when steering.
Should I get the boat lifted and checked over and will I have done any damage to engine / gearbox / sterngear ??
KevB
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Hi Chris,
Sorry to hear you picked up rope/net. We were in Island Harbour for a couple of nights over the weekend. Came to look for you but you were obviously busy cleaning the channel of fishing tackle.
Sorry to hear you picked up rope/net. We were in Island Harbour for a couple of nights over the weekend. Came to look for you but you were obviously busy cleaning the channel of fishing tackle.
Sundowner Portofino
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It will happen to everyione who goes out on the water at some point or another.
I picked up a fishing net coming out of Jersey a few years ago on a raggie.
It wraped itself into a tight ball between the stern gland and the cutlass bearing and pulled the shaft about half a foot out of the back of the yacht, shearing the gear box bell housing clean in two in the process.
Very expensive for the owner and a massive time delay, engines out etc...
We were f***ing lucky that no one got hurt and were withing easy turn around distance of Jersey with twin engines.
On another occaision leaving Cartert on a MOBO hit a lump of wood or something under the water and that snapped two of the prop blades off one of the duo props.
It happens, there is little or nothing that can be done to stop it other than not going out at all. The most important thing is to have a plan in advance of what you will do when it happens, do you have the right safety gear, do you have ports of refuge, do you carry diving / snorkling gear to clear your props etc...
Happy boating all
I picked up a fishing net coming out of Jersey a few years ago on a raggie.
It wraped itself into a tight ball between the stern gland and the cutlass bearing and pulled the shaft about half a foot out of the back of the yacht, shearing the gear box bell housing clean in two in the process.
Very expensive for the owner and a massive time delay, engines out etc...
We were f***ing lucky that no one got hurt and were withing easy turn around distance of Jersey with twin engines.
On another occaision leaving Cartert on a MOBO hit a lump of wood or something under the water and that snapped two of the prop blades off one of the duo props.
It happens, there is little or nothing that can be done to stop it other than not going out at all. The most important thing is to have a plan in advance of what you will do when it happens, do you have the right safety gear, do you have ports of refuge, do you carry diving / snorkling gear to clear your props etc...
Happy boating all
powerskipper
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in my experiance
When you pick something up, you often hear a bang , often vibration and often the engine will loose drive/Power or stop.
Bang= means something has belted the hull on turning and /or the engine has stopped.
Vibration= means you have something round the prop but prop is still turning. It will put a lot of pressure on the prop and shaft that it is not designed for and this can cause damage. So keep speed down if you have to limp home like this.
Loose drive power =means you have drag on the prop and it can also effect the rudder.
When or if it happens.
First thing is look off the back of the boat and see if you can see anything. Then at least you know what you are dealing with.
If you have a twin shaft or IPS and it has affected only one side, use good engine to get to safe haven, sea start can help as it has been told already.
If your on outdrives or single leg, lift leg/legs and clear as much as you can. try her once cleared but it always worth getting them checked if you do not know enough about them by someone who does.
Single shaft, get help or you will have to get wet to try and clear it.
When you pick something up, you often hear a bang , often vibration and often the engine will loose drive/Power or stop.
Bang= means something has belted the hull on turning and /or the engine has stopped.
Vibration= means you have something round the prop but prop is still turning. It will put a lot of pressure on the prop and shaft that it is not designed for and this can cause damage. So keep speed down if you have to limp home like this.
Loose drive power =means you have drag on the prop and it can also effect the rudder.
When or if it happens.
First thing is look off the back of the boat and see if you can see anything. Then at least you know what you are dealing with.
If you have a twin shaft or IPS and it has affected only one side, use good engine to get to safe haven, sea start can help as it has been told already.
If your on outdrives or single leg, lift leg/legs and clear as much as you can. try her once cleared but it always worth getting them checked if you do not know enough about them by someone who does.
Single shaft, get help or you will have to get wet to try and clear it.
ChrisKaye
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"you often hear a bang , often vibration and often the engine will loose drive/Power"
Yep I can confirm this, clunk first then vibration and loose power, (first time its happened to me) initially difficult to tell which engine it affected as a bit of panic sets in, but managed to establish it was port engine. Then again you dont know if you've hit something and bent prop or caught pot...............although there was no pot marker there, just these strips of floating weed, managed to avoid most but this one just appeared.
Just waiting to speak to insurer now to see whats next to do
Yep I can confirm this, clunk first then vibration and loose power, (first time its happened to me) initially difficult to tell which engine it affected as a bit of panic sets in, but managed to establish it was port engine. Then again you dont know if you've hit something and bent prop or caught pot...............although there was no pot marker there, just these strips of floating weed, managed to avoid most but this one just appeared.
Just waiting to speak to insurer now to see whats next to do
nicho
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That's recently happened to some friends in their F37. 5 miles into Lyme bay, the starboard engine suddenly stopped, presumably after picking up something around the prop and the boat went hard to starboard. The damage is incredible, all the engine mountings were bent and twisted, the gearbox shattered and punched through the casing, and the repair bills are going skyward - £8K+ at the last count.
nicho
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The only problem I've had was in Christchurch Bay returning from Weymouth some years ago in our (then) S37. It was hot, flat calm, and SWMBO had just commented "Isn't this idyllic" when there was a bang and a massive vibration. Stopping immediately, I lifted the legs to see a large rope around both. I managed to cut the offending rope off, but all four props were badly mangled.
We limped back at slow speed, and once the props were replaced, we had no further problems. The words "isn't this idyllic" are now banned on our boat!
As I say, it really is down to the luck of the draw, wrong time/ wrong place etc
We limped back at slow speed, and once the props were replaced, we had no further problems. The words "isn't this idyllic" are now banned on our boat!
As I say, it really is down to the luck of the draw, wrong time/ wrong place etc
AdeOlly
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It's only happened once to me back in October '06, and powerskipper may remember this as she was with me, taking my new to me 305 on its first passage from Puerto Solente to Sovereign Harbour we picked up some netting round the starboard drive whilst waiting to lock in after a successful run. It more or less locked the drive solid but luckily no resulting damage to the drive, probably because we were just holding position at tickover. Had it happened in my previous single engined boat we'd have been blown onto the concrete revetment within a minute or two....
Some weeks later I came across a field of pot/long line(?) markers off Hastings where the idiot fisherman had seemingly used floating polypropylene between them. I saw the the rope before hitting it, so it just hooked under the outdrive and was easily freed. The damage was restricted the the nearest markers which disintegrated under the force of trying to stop five tons of boat traveling at 20+ knots. Shame. There must've been 20 or so markers connected in this way over quite some area.
Some weeks later I came across a field of pot/long line(?) markers off Hastings where the idiot fisherman had seemingly used floating polypropylene between them. I saw the the rope before hitting it, so it just hooked under the outdrive and was easily freed. The damage was restricted the the nearest markers which disintegrated under the force of trying to stop five tons of boat traveling at 20+ knots. Shame. There must've been 20 or so markers connected in this way over quite some area.
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