Bag for hanked on jib

[ifoxwell]

Were new to the world of hanked on jibs so i'm after for some advice chaps

For cruising Id like to leave the sail hanked on the forestay so I could do with a bag that I can drop the sail into and then completely enclose.

As further complications the jib has battens in it so I dont want to fold it and i'd also like to have access to the anchor locker?

Any suggestions

Ian

 

[Deleted member 36384]

It is likely to be a custom made bag, although you can buy hanked on jib bags. Alternatively and Bell Mouth Sausage Bag! Drop the sail, lightly tension a sheet, flake it neatly, unzip the sausage bag, slide under the sail, zip up, close the bell end around the hanks (zip or clips).

http://www.leesailcovers.com/headsail-bag/

http://www.jasperandbailey.com/canvas/turtle.html

 

[prv]

I've seen bags like this used on staysails quite often. Normally they go over a folded sail rather than being the full luff-to-clew length, but I suppose you could make a longer one. Perhaps have spring-clips to hang it from the guardrail and keep it off the deck and clear of your anchor locker.

Surely, though, you won't just have one jib but a series of different sizes? You can't really stow them all on the foredeck all the time.

Pete

 

[William_H]

If your anchor locker is like mine then there is no way you could have the jib in a bag clear of the anchor locker. The lid of which is immediately behind the forestay. I did cut the anchor locker lid in half on mine so 2 hinged lids which make access easier with jib down but still a bit tedious. I run the spinacker out of the anchor locker.
So we make a habit of setting up spin in the anchor locker before hanking on jib.
I would not consider leaving jib on deck as I have a range of 4 jibs so almost inevitably the wrong jib would be hanked on.
Nevertheless my sailing style is probably a lot different to yours. So a single hanked on may well suit most of your needs.
I would make a cover out of (main) sail cover material. Easy to sew on a domestic sewing machine. Perhaps use an old sheet or similar to make a pattern first. It can be full length of you can fold a portion of the clew back on itself to reduce the length. I see the cloth flat on the deck with a cut out slot so it can extend forward of the forestay. It would then come up with a join on top of velcro and or buckle type clips on lengths of tape. (or a zipper) The front end forward of the forestay would also have buckles velcro or both. Make the attachment strong to handle strong winds. You could try for a join at the bottom under the sail but I think this would be more tedious to attach. good luck olewill

 

[DFL1010]

These days most racing headsails come in full length bags due to battens (as you say) and laminates not liking being rolled like dacron.

Here's an example:
www.precisionsailloft.com/sails/sailing-accesories/product/long-genoa-sail-bag/

So, if you're buying a new heady then you can ask the sailmaker to provide it in one - if not speak to your local chaps and they'll most likely be able to knock one up for you.

They do (or should) come with a long zip that starts at the clew to ~80% to the front, and another one from the tack to the other zip so you can drop the sail on deck and zip up the long zip to hold it in place and then either leave it on the forestay or use the hanks to flake - not as pretty as a proper job but good enough.

They have a mesh bottom bit so rain/spray drops out, and because they're long it's relatively light per unit length so easy to lift to get to the anchor locker.


That said, I'd be wary of leaving the hanks attached at all times, and I'm not sure why you'd really want/need to. Once it's in the bag it's trivial to take off the forestay without the sail blowing away (unlike with a luff foil) and just as easy to reattach the next day.

 

[ex-Gladys]

There's a Dehler 35 CWS moored close to me which has a hanked on jib that stays hanked on and has a purpose made cover that goes around the forestay and clips to the guard rails...

 

[ifoxwell]

Re the number of sails, I sail this short handed and as such just have a number 3 and 4 to think about so its not much of an issue.

I like the idea of mocking something up with a bed sheet, might work. I was thinking that the cover would be laid out on the deck, the sail dropped and flaked inside ands then once its all wrapped up I attach the halyard to the bag and raise the tack end from the deck slightly so that I can reach the anchor?

I was hoping that some one had made something like this already so that it might take out the guess work

 

[DFL1010]

Why are you dead set on leaving it attached to the forestay?

Once it's bagged why not either move it down the rail until you can get to the anchor locker or put it on the cabin top to leave the side decks free? What size/type boat is it?

 

[dslittle]

Not a jib but we have an upwind sail that Kemp made for us that goes onto the inner forestay so the same thing really. They made us a bag for it at the same time which does exactly what you want. Great for launching as you would a spinney/cruising chute.

 

[ifoxwell]

Why are you dead set on leaving it attached to the forestay?

Once it's bagged why not either move it down the rail until you can get to the anchor locker or put it on the cabin top to leave the side decks free? What size/type boat is it?

Just convenience. Disconnecting/ connecting it both takes time and puts it in the way when moving fore and aft.

 

[ifoxwell]

Not a jib but we have an upwind sail that Kemp made for us that goes onto the inner forestay so the same thing really. They made us a bag for it at the same time which does exactly what you want. Great for launching as you would a spinney/cruising chute.

Ok thanks, perhaps I should talk to Kemps then