Back to the UK for a winter refit

jimmy_the_builder said:
So after all the to-ing and fro-ing about the antifoul, Marine Valeting Services (based at Hamble) set to with hand-scraping the hull this morning. By mid-morning they'd made a good start, there are two of them and they reckon it'll all be done by the end of tomorrow. Hard messy work though:

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The black rectangle just to Will's right is the new transducer for the Raymarine chirp sonar.

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Well, I've got to say that I am totally impressed by Marine Valeting Services. This was about 3pm today:

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As you can see they'd finished all the scraping, and were on to the sanding. By 4.30 it was all done and ready for priming, which will probably now happen on Thursday (forecast tomorrow is a bit rubbish for painting). Will and Luke from MVS did a great job, and thanks to Phil for fitting it in at short notice. Really pleased.
 
Ah I see now a separate port in horn for anode replacement.
Ref horns the volvo plastic repair kit contained sealant to be applied after corrosion was removed prior to fitting sleeve

I wonder how many boats there are out there with a similar problem to yours regarding exhaust horn replacement thousands?
 
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jimmy_the_builder said:
Good thinking. In fact I did get a second opinion about the horns at the beginning of this week - and they are very definitely corroded underneath the rubber cuff. You could probably put them back into service, but they have been leaking and that's only going to get worse. I don't have photos here but I'll get some later this week.

Ref the horn anode, it is #5 in this diagram. You can change it from inside the boat, although on my particular installation the stdb anode cover is very difficult to get at.

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Is part #8 in this diagram the rubber cuff? If so, can a replacement be sourced with a smaller distance between the joints at either end. It looks like maybe 100mm which should be reduceable to 75mm without losing the flexibility.
 
benjenbav said:
Is part #8 in this diagram the rubber cuff? If so, can a replacement be sourced with a smaller distance between the joints at either end. It looks like maybe 100mm which should be reduceable to 75mm without losing the flexibility.
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The rubber cuff is #8 in the diagram, and is 235mm long. It's quite a specific shape so it's unlikely there's any slightly-smaller replacement available. This is what led to RK's suggestion about scalloping the cuff around the anode housing on the horn and the water injection spigot on the riser.
 
Excellent double full lakesailor of #659 2nd para :). As you have an offer of one new riser from VP, then you could ask RK for the second one and the hoses at trade cost price ( on the footing that even if they're not man enough to pay for their mistakes they certainly shouldn't profit from them). That gets the cost vaguely digestible and means the thermal jackets fit neatly.
Hang on- if you get new risers do you also need new jackets?
 
jfm said:
Excellent double full lakesailor of #659 2nd para :). As you have an offer of one new riser from VP, then you could ask RK for the second one and the hoses at trade cost price ( on the footing that even if they're not man enough to pay for their mistakes they certainly shouldn't profit from them). That gets the cost vaguely digestible and means the thermal jackets fit neatly.
Hang on- if you get new risers do you also need new jackets?
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Aargh you're quite right, sorry - apologies. It was the straight vertical section in the riser photo quoted by Portofino that focussed my mind.

I think there is zero chance of RK supplying the additional parts at cost price. Their pov is that this is an issue between me and Volvo GB.

Ref the thermal jackets ('nappies') - I did think of this yesterday, and RK checked the part numbers and have told me that both old and new risers show the jacket with the same part number, so should be ok.
 
Am very disappointed by RK's position on this.

You employed them to do the work, they are the professional VP qualified and accredited engineering company. It is their responsibility to remain current with VP updates etc and offer advice accordingly.

In my business (Manufacturer of Clay & Concrete Roof Tiles) I am responsible for the technical and commercial advice given to my customers regardless of size. In short if I make a boo boo its down to me to sort it not just say to my customer "sorry mate".

I will not speak for anyone else but I will not use RK for work in the future if this is how they treat a customer who I am sure has spent £0000's with them so far.

Soap Box Away lol
 
Please bear with me..

I assume this is the original exhaust pipe as it says it's out of production. Part No. 40005584

https://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7746210-44-35258.aspx


This is the replacement? part No. 21114146

https://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7746210-44-37213.aspx


There couldn't be a chance that you have been supplied this. Part No. 21698559

https://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7746210-44-36842.aspx


I'm basing my query on the word 'EXTENDED'

That would also explain why the long hose is wrong as these are different too
 
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KevB said:
Please bear with me..

I assume this is the original exhaust pipe as it says it's out of production. Part No. 40005584

https://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7746210-44-35258.aspx


This is the replacement? part No. 21114146

https://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7746210-44-37213.aspx


There couldn't be a chance that you have been supplied this. Part No. 21698559

https://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7746210-44-36842.aspx


I'm basing my query on the word 'EXTENDED'

That would also explain why the long hose is wrong as these are different too
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I did ask that question yesterday, but apparently not. The part number that they quoted for and (I believe) has been fitted is an assembly part number 21714202.
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
I did ask that question yesterday, but apparently not. The part number that they quoted for and (I believe) has been fitted is an assembly part number 21714202.
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To me it looks suspiciously like you've had the extended exhaust fitted for two reasons - firstly it doesn't fit and I find it hard to believe volvo would design it not to and secondly the long hose supplied that also doesn't fit matches the one shown with the extended exhaust.
 
I'm confused. The part no. 21714202 which Jimmy mentions is neither the normal, it's replacement nor the extended one. I'm probably missing something?
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
Anyway - changing the subject for a moment - look at this awesome birthday present from my sister. Just in time for the long weekend!
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Wow what a great present! Puts the bunch of miserable flowers you got her from Tesco to shame, eh?;)
 
It looks like it'll be easy to identify whether it's the extended exhaust fitted to the boat as the hose clamp is in a different location

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It all seems too obvious for this not to be the problem
 
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