Jurgen
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Currently have a "Mains TV" on the boat we are buying.
Could this voltage stabilizer be used to plumb the TV into the 12 v system?
Back to the UK for a winter refit
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Currently have a "Mains TV" on the boat we are buying.
Could this voltage stabilizer be used to plumb the TV into the 12 v system?
Elessar
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no - the great big inverter under the bed in the aft cabin will sort it for you though
Jurgen
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Doh !
Thanks for last Saturday, will be down on Friday so will pop over to you with your top if your around
Elessar
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you need to update the impetuous thread if you did the deal. Perhaps I will start a "jealous as hell" thread if you don't
Jurgen
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you need to update the impetuous thread if you did the deal. Perhaps I will start a "jealous as hell" thread if you don't
Done
CharlieAlpha
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Symblast were doing a Sealine same row as your but on slipway end in RK's yard in the weeks and the finish looked good (but did not do a close up inspection) but was back to the gel coat (just)Hi P
Yes I have - mentioned further up in the thread (do try and keep up at the back). £720+vat blast only; £2800+vat blast/sand/coppercoat. They don't want to do the epoxying that would be required if I went for blast only.
RogerRat
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Hi Jimmy,
As promised, with kind permission of the local Targa 40 owner with the same initials as me.(NO not RR):ambivalence:
After a really high quality re-trim to his cockpit seating, they now look totally new and right up to date, every bit as nice as current new boats.
The helm seat as you know is quite fiddly but the trimmer worked a touch of magic within the colour scheme and it now looks like this. As you know the helm seat backs up to the BBQ and can get splashed when in use, there is a nice little slip over cover to give some protection to the silver beige trim.
With slip cover:
From rear:
Also the Targa logo stitched into the cockpit seat behind the table:
And then the Sun Pad with the seat back hinged forward:
There you go, I know you have your trimming under way now but I was very impressed with how this one turned out and I'm sure it isn't a scheme that you would easily get tired of.
One of the nicest I've seen. :encouragement:
RR
As promised, with kind permission of the local Targa 40 owner with the same initials as me.(NO not RR):ambivalence:
After a really high quality re-trim to his cockpit seating, they now look totally new and right up to date, every bit as nice as current new boats.
The helm seat as you know is quite fiddly but the trimmer worked a touch of magic within the colour scheme and it now looks like this. As you know the helm seat backs up to the BBQ and can get splashed when in use, there is a nice little slip over cover to give some protection to the silver beige trim.
With slip cover:
From rear:
Also the Targa logo stitched into the cockpit seat behind the table:
And then the Sun Pad with the seat back hinged forward:
There you go, I know you have your trimming under way now but I was very impressed with how this one turned out and I'm sure it isn't a scheme that you would easily get tired of.
One of the nicest I've seen.
:encouragement:RR
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petem
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Nice job RR who did it?
jimmy_the_builder
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Hi Roger
Thanks for this - that does look very nice. I've taken a slightly different approach - I've used a sunbrella stripe for the sunpads fore and aft, which was the same approach as oe. Also, I decided against the 'Targa' badging, and instead I've got the Fairline crest branded into the upholstery in a couple of places.
I'm interested to see how the oe white grp cockpit table looks against this fabric - from the pic above it looks all right, I think. How was it in the flesh? The fabric shade doesn't appear to be much different to the shade I have specified; I was concerned that the oe table would look wrong and would need to be replaced with a teak table. (In fact I'd still like to do this, but with all the tasks in the refit I just haven't got to it).
Separately, although I haven't updated the thread much lately, in fact the refit is progressing at breakneck speed. Engine refurb is complete, and they are going back into the boat this week. Trim tab position senders have been fitted (thanks to Vas for the suggestion on his own rebuild thread). The wiring tidying up that I wanted to do in the engine room is complete. The new chirp sonar transducer has been fitted. The goalpost refurb is complete. The aircon raw water outlet re-route is done.
And the bathing platform is nearly there now; the main platform was permanently refitted a few weeks ago, and the new struts are fitted. Both the port and starboard pods are built and have been trimmed up ready for final finishing.
Main problem at the moment continues to be the vexing issue of the removal of the old antifoul. I've said 'no thank you' to Symblast. Still trying to find someone to scrape the old stuff off, but no joy so far. And Ancam research continues...
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RogerRat
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Apols, don't know his name but he is based in Poole.
Jimmy,
I was in Swanwick today so I saw the progress on the platform. The struts and underwater lights look the business as did the main section of the platform. It'll be totally different once the pods are done and the teak replaced as well.
The OE table looks fine with this colour as there is plenty of white all round the boat. The colour in the pics is not really a good representation as in reality it is a warm beige colour but with a silver sheen. A teak table would work too but I guess that has to be down to personal pref. I like the both the Targa logo and the Fairline shield as alternatives in the trim. Having said that I feel the contrasting blue helps it where as just an embossed shield would be less distinctive.
Antifoul: I had my T40 hand scraped/stripped completely by Messrs. Frith of Hayling Island Glass Fibre a few years ago. It took two guys a few days to do it and it is a tough way of doing it. Not sure they would volunteer to go to Swanwick tho, but may be worth asking.
Looking forward to seeing the engine bay and platform pics when done.
RR
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jimmy_the_builder
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So after all the to-ing and fro-ing about the antifoul, Marine Valeting Services (based at Hamble) set to with hand-scraping the hull this morning. By mid-morning they'd made a good start, there are two of them and they reckon it'll all be done by the end of tomorrow. Hard messy work though:
The black rectangle just to Will's right is the new transducer for the Raymarine chirp sonar.
The black rectangle just to Will's right is the new transducer for the Raymarine chirp sonar.
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jfm
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That looks like hard work. Good going for them to tackle it. What's in the jerry can? Red Bull?
New transducers are all the rage this year then. I've fitted 2 Chirps in mother ship and 1 normal in tender What depth do you hope to be able to read with the chirper?
New transducers are all the rage this year then. I've fitted 2 Chirps in mother ship and 1 normal in tender What depth do you hope to be able to read with the chirper?
jimmy_the_builder
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In other news, the engine refurb was finished by SSL in Brighton last week, and RK Marine put them back into the boat on Thursday. They look a look healthier than when we took them out:
In the end there were only a couple of surprises. The aftercoolers, heat exchangers, oil coolers and fuel coolers were all removed for cleaning. This was all ok except for one oil cooler housing, which was corroded beyond sensible repair so was replaced. In addition, there was one elbow fitting to the heat exchanger that also needed to be replaced. We replaced sundry hoses as required, including the fuel feed and return hoses; replaced all the jubilee clips with stainless, and all the p clips with stainless. I had a bunch of brackets blasted and powder coated, and the engine mounts were blasted and two-packed. The dipstick fittings at the sump were both leaking, so we remade those. Starter motors were stripped and refurbed, ecu covers were blasted and wet-sprayed, and the exhaust risers were acid cleaned.
I prepped and painted the blocks myself; everything else was done by the team at SSL in Brighton who did an excellent job.
Anyway, when the engines came out, RK Marine recommended that the exhaust horns should be replaced. I followed their advice, and the new horns were installed just ahead of the engine installation (you need the engines out of the way to do this).
Volvo have had some issues with the exhaust riser-bellow-horn installation; apparently there have been problems with installation where the waterline is such that there is intermittent seawater contact between the horn and riser, creating electrolytic corrosion. This lead to a campaign a couple of years ago to check for riser corrosion; my boat wasn't affected by this. However, the consequence of this is that the exhaust horn has been redesigned, it now has a integral anode - but very unhelpfully, it is a different shape to the previous design.
The consequence of this is that the revised horn no longer fits to the original riser. This isn't a great photo, but you can see the big rubber bellow between the riser and the horn is twisted, which means that the wet exhaust stream is hitting the rubber bellow rather than firing straight down the horn. You can also see the other rubber hose, not currently fittied, is the wrong shape for the fitting on the riser.
RK Marine were not expecting this problem, and after consulting with Volvo GB, have told me today that the remedy as advised by Volvo GB is to replace the risers as well. There's nothing wrong with my exhaust risers, and the replacements are c.£1400 each plus some labour to fit.
I'm pretty unhappy that because Volvo have redesigned a component assembly, which you might reasonably identify as being badly-designed in the first place (hence the redesign) they are basically bouncing owners like me into costly and unnecessary component replacements because they have failed to make the redesigned component backwards-compatible.
At the time of writing, I don't have a solution for this. I was hoping to relaunch next week, and all other tasks ahead of relaunch are currently on track. This one is currently a showstopper.
In the end there were only a couple of surprises. The aftercoolers, heat exchangers, oil coolers and fuel coolers were all removed for cleaning. This was all ok except for one oil cooler housing, which was corroded beyond sensible repair so was replaced. In addition, there was one elbow fitting to the heat exchanger that also needed to be replaced. We replaced sundry hoses as required, including the fuel feed and return hoses; replaced all the jubilee clips with stainless, and all the p clips with stainless. I had a bunch of brackets blasted and powder coated, and the engine mounts were blasted and two-packed. The dipstick fittings at the sump were both leaking, so we remade those. Starter motors were stripped and refurbed, ecu covers were blasted and wet-sprayed, and the exhaust risers were acid cleaned.
I prepped and painted the blocks myself; everything else was done by the team at SSL in Brighton who did an excellent job.
Anyway, when the engines came out, RK Marine recommended that the exhaust horns should be replaced. I followed their advice, and the new horns were installed just ahead of the engine installation (you need the engines out of the way to do this).
Volvo have had some issues with the exhaust riser-bellow-horn installation; apparently there have been problems with installation where the waterline is such that there is intermittent seawater contact between the horn and riser, creating electrolytic corrosion. This lead to a campaign a couple of years ago to check for riser corrosion; my boat wasn't affected by this. However, the consequence of this is that the exhaust horn has been redesigned, it now has a integral anode - but very unhelpfully, it is a different shape to the previous design.
The consequence of this is that the revised horn no longer fits to the original riser. This isn't a great photo, but you can see the big rubber bellow between the riser and the horn is twisted, which means that the wet exhaust stream is hitting the rubber bellow rather than firing straight down the horn. You can also see the other rubber hose, not currently fittied, is the wrong shape for the fitting on the riser.
RK Marine were not expecting this problem, and after consulting with Volvo GB, have told me today that the remedy as advised by Volvo GB is to replace the risers as well. There's nothing wrong with my exhaust risers, and the replacements are c.£1400 each plus some labour to fit.
I'm pretty unhappy that because Volvo have redesigned a component assembly, which you might reasonably identify as being badly-designed in the first place (hence the redesign) they are basically bouncing owners like me into costly and unnecessary component replacements because they have failed to make the redesigned component backwards-compatible.
At the time of writing, I don't have a solution for this. I was hoping to relaunch next week, and all other tasks ahead of relaunch are currently on track. This one is currently a showstopper.
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rafiki_
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Jimmy, that's a pretty poor design. Is yours the first retro fit? Unlikely, so what have others done? I think you are talking over £3k to replace? There must be a solution out there surely?
jimmy_the_builder
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I haven't a clue tbh. Apparently you can get downvision detail down to 200m. I'd quite like to test it in 5m between the islands, to see if there's any stainless steel tube knocking around...
jimmy_the_builder
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I don't believe I can be the first retro, given the campaign a couple of years ago. However, RK certainly weren't aware of the issue, and I find myself currently between a rock and a hard place. It would for example be possible to repair the existing horns, it turns out - I'm told that it's possible to cut the corroded top four inches of the horn off and weld on fresh aluminium tube. This is a common fix for DPE drives apparently.
However, RK are saying that if we go down that route, there will be an additional cost to move the engines back out of the way again so that the new horns can be removed and the old/repaired horns reinstalled.
Putting these costs in context, the original quote to supply and fit the new horns was £837.60 inc vat. With the risers, this suddenly becomes the thick of £4k.
jimmy_the_builder
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Anyway, to finish off on a slightly more positive note, apparently the bathing platform pods were bolted on today; I'm looking forward to seeing them tomorrow. Tockfield have been in touch today to say that the cockpit upholstery is finished, although I won't get the chance to collect it until next week. And also today I got the additional i70 display for the master cabin wind display, as recommended by Hurricane.
benjenbav
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Engines look like new. Good to see the clips added after the paint!
Just looking at the antifoul scraping is making my back hurt!
It's pretty unbelievable both that the redesigned horns don't mate with the existing risers and that no-one mentioned this when you were in the market to replace the horns. All I can think of on this is that it's an exhaust system so maybe an automotive exhaust modder could fabricate a s/s connecting piece at non-marine prices?
Just looking at the antifoul scraping is making my back hurt!
It's pretty unbelievable both that the redesigned horns don't mate with the existing risers and that no-one mentioned this when you were in the market to replace the horns. All I can think of on this is that it's an exhaust system so maybe an automotive exhaust modder could fabricate a s/s connecting piece at non-marine prices?
jfm
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Erk, what a Volvo mess up. I need to be sure I have the terminology right: "horn" is the bit that goes under the engine, hardly visible in pics, and "riser" is the curvy dull steel tube that is in fact the exhaust pipe right after the turbo, right?
Could you get a welder to cut n shut mod the old riser so it becomes a copy of a new riser, and therefore mates nicely with the horn via the rubber bellows?
If you end up with 2x £1400k it looks like RK owe you a contribution if they advised change of horn without mentioning the necessary new riser cost. That looks to me like negligent advice, which you relied on, and you have suffered a loss, so they should it seems to me make you whole. Even in a world of compromising they should be talking imho about a contribution in the form of a pair of new risers at something less than cost price. It is utterly wrong imho for them to make a dealer margin on the new risers
Just my $0.02 based on what I see in your post. Good luck anyway
Could you get a welder to cut n shut mod the old riser so it becomes a copy of a new riser, and therefore mates nicely with the horn via the rubber bellows?
If you end up with 2x £1400k it looks like RK owe you a contribution if they advised change of horn without mentioning the necessary new riser cost. That looks to me like negligent advice, which you relied on, and you have suffered a loss, so they should it seems to me make you whole. Even in a world of compromising they should be talking imho about a contribution in the form of a pair of new risers at something less than cost price. It is utterly wrong imho for them to make a dealer margin on the new risers
Just my $0.02 based on what I see in your post. Good luck anyway
Jurgen
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Hi Jimmy, bad new re the risers. That really socks.
Re jfm's point I would definitely be speaking with RK, after all they are the experts and you are paying for expert advice. Isn't that why they justify £70.00 per hour over freelance marine engineers?
Looking forward to seeing the pictures of the completed bathing platform. Did you manage to get the teak sorted in the end?
Re jfm's point I would definitely be speaking with RK, after all they are the experts and you are paying for expert advice. Isn't that why they justify £70.00 per hour over freelance marine engineers?
Looking forward to seeing the pictures of the completed bathing platform. Did you manage to get the teak sorted in the end?
