Romeo
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Cardiff 14 July
Eyemouth 18 July
Lowestoft 20 July
Eyemouth 18 July
Lowestoft 20 July
Auction of boats from EISCA.
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Kukri
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Thank you. I could not find it.
Kukri
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The auctioneers website has been updated (it seems to change almost hourly!) and the viewing times and dates have changed.
https://www.sweeney-kincaid.com/Sales/SaleDescription.aspx?SaleId=3112
At the moment, with nine days to go, no bids have met the reserve prices.
I don't know anything about insolvency but I do wonder if the reason for the reserve prices is to permit the auctioneers to sell the collection as a whole or in large chunks, which from the point of view of "heritage" would be best I think. One can see that the reed boats, proas, sampans, etc are of ethnographic / anthropological interest but the International Fourteens are of interest in terms of the history of small boat sailing, and so on.. They don't really "belong together" and I think the only reason that they are together is that the Exeter Museum collection was rescued by a wealthy man with an interest in classic and vintage dinghies.
https://www.sweeney-kincaid.com/Sales/SaleDescription.aspx?SaleId=3112
At the moment, with nine days to go, no bids have met the reserve prices.
I don't know anything about insolvency but I do wonder if the reason for the reserve prices is to permit the auctioneers to sell the collection as a whole or in large chunks, which from the point of view of "heritage" would be best I think. One can see that the reed boats, proas, sampans, etc are of ethnographic / anthropological interest but the International Fourteens are of interest in terms of the history of small boat sailing, and so on.. They don't really "belong together" and I think the only reason that they are together is that the Exeter Museum collection was rescued by a wealthy man with an interest in classic and vintage dinghies.
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burgundyben
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I'll be surprised if the auctioneers cover their costs.
It doesn't seem the right approach to have taken.
It doesn't seem the right approach to have taken.
burgundyben
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I have an email telling me there is an update here.
https://www.sweeney-kincaid.com/Sales/SaleDescription.aspx?SaleId=3112
(I can't see what has changed)
https://www.sweeney-kincaid.com/Sales/SaleDescription.aspx?SaleId=3112
(I can't see what has changed)
Kukri
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I think the cataloguing of Cardiff has been extended - Lowestoft still needs more work... new dates for viewings..
I still don't believe that this sale is really going to happen.
I still don't believe that this sale is really going to happen.
Romeo
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12 noon on the 21st is last time for bids for the collection as a whole apparently. It does feel a bit as if the online auction may be about putting pressure on someone who is going down that route....... hope so. Anyway, I am booked in for a visit to Eyemouth tomorrow, and looking forward to it.
Kukri
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Pls see PM
Kukri
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The hour has passed, and at the moment the auction seems to be proceeding, with no apparent reduction in the reserves. But of course that could change depending on how a tender for the whole collection is evaluated.
Update - Saturday morning - some items are now shown as "reserve met". It's a bit odd, though; the Azores whaleboat, one of the cobles and one of the fourerns - Lots one to three - are shown as "reserve met" but not the other boats. Some very nice woodworking equipment going cheap...
Update - Saturday morning - some items are now shown as "reserve met". It's a bit odd, though; the Azores whaleboat, one of the cobles and one of the fourerns - Lots one to three - are shown as "reserve met" but not the other boats. Some very nice woodworking equipment going cheap...
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Kukri
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I was wondering why the reserves had been reduced on three big boats in good condition and on a lot of museum exhibits and books and equipment.
The penny dropped - the items on which the reserves have been lowered are all in the main building and the terms of sale require them to be removed promptly- there must be a buyer or an incoming tenant for that building so they need to clear it.
The rest will presumably be treated as "unsold lots".
The penny dropped - the items on which the reserves have been lowered are all in the main building and the terms of sale require them to be removed promptly- there must be a buyer or an incoming tenant for that building so they need to clear it.
The rest will presumably be treated as "unsold lots".
Kukri
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I looked, I bid, and I got what I wanted. All I have to do now is change the bearings on the Firefly's combi trailer and drive to Scotland with it...
Actually almost all the lots sold. Including the head of the HERZOGIN CECILIE's capstan, for loadsamoney...
Actually almost all the lots sold. Including the head of the HERZOGIN CECILIE's capstan, for loadsamoney...
BarnyC
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Hi All,
I bought the little Sea Ranger (lot 128) which is in the Ostrich Shed. I'm collecting her on Wednesday afternoon to bring her back to Northamptonshire. She is quite high on a rack and its up to me to bring her down......I'm taking my son to help, but wonder if anyone else will be there. Happy to help others move/load boats whilst I'm there.
Cheers,
Barny Creaser
I bought the little Sea Ranger (lot 128) which is in the Ostrich Shed. I'm collecting her on Wednesday afternoon to bring her back to Northamptonshire. She is quite high on a rack and its up to me to bring her down......I'm taking my son to help, but wonder if anyone else will be there. Happy to help others move/load boats whilst I'm there.
Cheers,
Barny Creaser
Kukri
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Unfortunately I'm going to be there on Thursday!
Kukri
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It gets weird.
Almost everything sold at the auction. But I noticed when we picked up the boat that we had bought that most of them were still there.
It seems that more than a hundred of them have been bought by a Chinese outfit and are going to be shipped to China.
Almost everything sold at the auction. But I noticed when we picked up the boat that we had bought that most of them were still there.
It seems that more than a hundred of them have been bought by a Chinese outfit and are going to be shipped to China.
lw395
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Which boats?
The concept of Chinese people trying to pronounce 'Historic Merlin Rocket' let alone wanting one is quite strange!
Rum Run
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There is a massive surge in "heritage" projects in China at the moment. Several UK museum design companies are going flat out working on multiple projects over there. I have no idea about these boats though
Romeo
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Well if the so called "ethnic" collection is being kept largely together that has to be a good thing. Not many people managed to visit them when they were 20 miles down the road from me. Hopefully they can find a bigger audience in China. I don't think the Rob Roy canoe that I missed out on will be heading that far east though.
Kukri
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Huts
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Hello
I am very interest to know the whereabouts of Eliza, the whaling boat. Here on the Azores there has been a big revival of the whaling boats and many have been rebuild over the last 15 years, 45 are in sailing condition again, and being used for recreational use. Unfortunately the news of the auction didn't arrive in time to organize a a biting. If anybody has a clue to where she went I would be very happy to know.
Eliza, or Elisa as she is known localy, is listed here:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_dos_botes_baleeiros_dos_Açores
I am very interest to know the whereabouts of Eliza, the whaling boat. Here on the Azores there has been a big revival of the whaling boats and many have been rebuild over the last 15 years, 45 are in sailing condition again, and being used for recreational use. Unfortunately the news of the auction didn't arrive in time to organize a a biting. If anybody has a clue to where she went I would be very happy to know.
Eliza, or Elisa as she is known localy, is listed here:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_dos_botes_baleeiros_dos_Açores
Romeo
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I did put in a bid, but without success (much to my relief in the end, as it would have been quite a task to move her. To some extent the building must have been completed after she was put in it.)
She looked in pretty good nick, and still had all spars, oars and a couple of harpoons. Interesting to see that you could choose between a rudder and a sweep steering oar.
She looked in pretty good nick, and still had all spars, oars and a couple of harpoons. Interesting to see that you could choose between a rudder and a sweep steering oar.
