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If you have done it West to East you will know its an easy trip. Its been done in all sorts of vessels. The trip back is far tougher. How many of those boats sail back under their own keel? The ARC rarely gets headwinds. Thats the tough bit on boat and crew
Lots do. Probably most that return. I've delivered some. ? Fortunately for me, it's never as bad as some people make out. Certainly a tad more breeze generally, but departures into the summer are far more pleasant. Those that take on the weather in April are probably the ones that have bigged it up. I have done it then too, bit bumpy. And wowser, I was skippering a Lavezzi Catamaran! Heretic or what! ??
 

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Little to be learned about long distance cruising from the boat types on just one event though, what's much more interesting is the "what broke" articles afterwards. :cool:
I'm always interested in the what broke and who broke it and how it broke though. I don't want to appear crass, but there are some people who are very unsympathetic to what they do with gear.

I'll 'fess up to an incident a few years ago. I was trying to take twist out of my mainsail and went for the vang. It was a bit of a struggle so I put it on the winch and wound furiously and promptly broke one of the Harken double sheave blocks that go between base of the mast and the boom. I had made the stupid (and expensive) and elementary mistake of not looking up to see that there was a reefing pennant that had jammed and was holding the end of the boom up and taking the shape out of the mainsail. It was s silly mistake and has made me look twice when something is a not running quite as free as it ought ever since. There's always a reason...
 

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Is there a bigger source of what broke information anywhere else in the world in a normal year? Say 250 boats times twenty something years? Doubt it......
 

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Is there a bigger source of what broke information anywhere else in the world in a normal year? Say 250 boats times twenty something years? Doubt it......
It's a good source, but like lots of such data, some of the accounts have to be read in context. Was it poor quality, lack of maintenance, wrong size for the job, accidental damage, operator error, poor seamanship- etc etc..?
 

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I'm always interested in the what broke and who broke it and how it broke though. I don't want to appear crass, but there are some people who are very unsympathetic to what they do with gear.
Is there a bigger source of what broke information anywhere else in the world in a normal year? Say 250 boats times twenty something years? Doubt it......

More total guesswork, but suspect much more will break on arc boats than with "normal" full time cruisers, lots will have broke already and the experienced imho will do their best to break as little as possible, less time and money spent at the other end fixing it.

Again guessing, well a little, cruisers having been out for a while will likely have simpler boats than an average AWB on the arc. At the start anyway... ;)
 

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This is the main ARC. World Cruising Club

Boats in the rally certainly are growing but loadsa smaller yachts cross independently.

Unsurprisingly a very small fleet this year. Perhaps a quarter of the size compared to when we did it.

And a quick scan I suspect only one long keeled boat - the regular Peter Von Seestermuhe.
 

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Lots do. Probably most that return. I've delivered some. ? Fortunately for me, it's never as bad as some people make out. Certainly a tad more breeze generally, but departures into the summer are far more pleasant. Those that take on the weather in April are probably the ones that have bigged it up. I have done it then too, bit bumpy. And wowser, I was skippering a Lavezzi Catamaran! Heretic or what! ??
It was a tough trip back for many this year with several days of headwinds up to 35 kts on route to the Azores. We had a couple of days of strong head winds and count ourselves lucky. The previous W to E trip was headwind most of the way. Both trips in May when conditions are supposed to be good. Much prefer going the other way. I think it helps that every day you are getting closer to the Caribbean not the grey skies and grey sea of the UK?
 
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It's a good source, but like lots of such data, some of the accounts have to be read in context. Was it poor quality, lack of maintenance, wrong size for the job, accidental damage, operator error, poor seamanship- etc etc..?
I suppose Jimmy Cornell ocean cruising survey is a bit out of date now. But the Saily magazines are quite good at collating the data quite often.
 

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More total guesswork, but suspect much more will break on arc boats than with "normal" full time cruisers, lots will have broke already and the experienced imho will do their best to break as little as possible, less time and money spent at the other end fixing it.

Again guessing, well a little, cruisers having been out for a while will likely have simpler boats than an average AWB on the arc. At the start anyway... ;)
Ask delivery skippers. ?
 

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It was a tough trip back for many this year with several days of headwinds up to 35 kts on route to the Azores. We had a couple of days of strong head winds and count ourselves lucky. The previous W to E trip was headwind most of the way. Both trips in May when conditions are supposed to be good. Much prefer going the other way. I think it helps that every day you are getting closer to the Caribbean not the grey skies and grey sea of the UK?
Gone that way six times. I reckon the later the better. Done the other way six times too. The last one was January before last. It was a distinctly chilly trip to the Cape Verdes. Not that warm there either!
 

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Hi from Matt on Mojo in the busy anchorage at Las Palmas. Agreed it seems a small ARC fleet but still no space in the marina - they just chucked out fewer boats this year. Purely by chance (yes really) I'm taking an all-female crew this time across, with tons of enthusiasm and an eye for detail - they worked out what they planned to make, decided ingredients, then collated everything and bought exactly those items. Although instead of the usual trolley load of stuff per person for the trip, it's twice that. Blog is near blog.mailasail.com/catmojo
 

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Hi from Matt on Mojo in the busy anchorage at Las Palmas. Agreed it seems a small ARC fleet but still no space in the marina - they just chucked out fewer boats this year. Purely by chance (yes really) I'm taking an all-female crew this time across, with tons of enthusiasm and an eye for detail - they worked out what they planned to make, decided ingredients, then collated everything and bought exactly those items. Although instead of the usual trolley load of stuff per person for the trip, it's twice that. Blog is near blog.mailasail.com/catmojo
Hola Matt, will be watching out for your progress! Good luck with the trip.?
 

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Fred drift many sail to Caribbean but do they sail Back?

If you wanted to sail in the carribean is it best to buy a yacht out there from someone who has had enough??
 
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