Atlantic Crossing.

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Fred drift many sail to Caribbean but do they sail Back?

If you wanted to sail in the carribean is it best to buy a yacht out there from someone who has had enough??
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And miss out on the crossing? I enjoy the outbound trip. Sat here in the uk with the car display saying -1degC I would take the Atlantic crossing every time?
 

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And a Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 331, and a pogo 30 at ARC by las palmas(y)
That's a brave person doing it in a Pogo 30. Having seen one try to self destruct in a marina during a moderate storm I am not sure my nerves would take it doing a 20 mile passage in one, let alone an Atlantic crossing.
 

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That's a brave person doing it in a Pogo 30. Having seen one try to self destruct in a marina during a moderate storm I am not sure my nerves would take it doing a 20 mile passage in one, let alone an Atlantic crossing.

Quite a few of the slightly bigger Pogo’s have done the ARC safely in previous years, and as far as I could tell no more issues than bigger and heavier old British boats.
And of course the Pogo 30 is a huge, and very conservatively rigged, boat compared to what lots of French (and some U.K.) sailors regularly race across in - the 7m Mini Transat.
 

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Quite a few of the slightly bigger Pogo’s have done the ARC safely in previous years, and as far as I could tell no more issues than bigger and heavier old British boats.
And of course the Pogo 30 is a huge, and very conservatively rigged, boat compared to what lots of French (and some U.K.) sailors regularly race across in - the 7m Mini Transat.
No doubt, but horses for courses I suppose. The Pogo 30 probably wouldn't crack my top 100 choices for a transat.
 

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Seemed like a good start for most. Inevitably despite all the planning, several didn't make the start, must be very frustrating.

Those suffering from the motion of the ocean may be wondering what lies ahead!
 

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No doubt, but horses for courses I suppose. The Pogo 30 probably wouldn't crack my top 100 choices for a transat.

Me neither. We had 3-4 tons of lead underneath, Bimini on top, hot showers every day, and masses of food for the daily cooking competition - and still raced across beating many of the similar racing fleet on the water (including a 13m Pogo if I recall correctly).
But as ever, sail what you have.
 

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If you have done it West to East you will know its an easy trip. Its been done in all sorts of vessels. The trip back is far tougher. How many of those boats sail back under their own keel? The ARC rarely gets headwinds. Thats the tough bit on boat and crew
Two days before arriving in St Lucia the skipper of the commercially operated yacht I was on said, of course you haven’t really sailed the Atlantic until you’ve done west to east - three of us signed up for the return. Coming up the Western Aproaches she said of course what you really need to have on your CV is a full circuit so four of us signed up for Plymouth- Las Palmas this year. Covid put paid to that, but the yacht is heading South West from Gran Canaria as I type with six more crew no doubt having the time of their sailing lives. The four of us wanting to complete the circuit are waiting for next year, and wondering whether to sign on to go round again.

West to East was certainly a very different experience, especially skirting Storm Miguel which claimed the lives of French lifeboat crew and damaged several AZAB yachts. Arriving in Horta is certainly a highlight of my sailing experience.
 

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Hi from Matt on Mojo in the busy anchorage at Las Palmas. Agreed it seems a small ARC fleet but still no space in the marina - they just chucked out fewer boats this year. Purely by chance (yes really) I'm taking an all-female crew this time across, with tons of enthusiasm and an eye for detail - they worked out what they planned to make, decided ingredients, then collated everything and bought exactly those items. Although instead of the usual trolley load of stuff per person for the trip, it's twice that. Blog is near blog.mailasail.com/catmojo
Good luck! There's a lot of us here wishing we were with you. :)
 

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That’s besides the point. Or are you suggesting that all those ARC sailors wouldn’t be there if they didn’t have the support mechanisms of the rally? That somehow it’s not really an ocean crossing because there are 60 or a hundred boats spread out on the ocean?

The hand holding is mainly psychological IMHO. I’ve no experience of the ARC but my experience of crossing oceans is you don’t see anything except sea for days. I suggest there are plenty of people who join the ARC for the parties and camaraderie and a few nervous partners who get roped in because ‘there will be other boats around to rescue us’. No criticism of either and we’re debating whether to cough up for the parties too..
I think it's highly likely that many of them would, in fact, not be crossing the atlantic at all if it wasn't for the rally format. Of course there will be those who choose to do it in company rather than alone, but its rather like organised trekking and climbing. Almost none of the folk who pay for a place on an everest trip would ever get anywhere near the mountain if it was not organised for them.
 

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Anchored now Martinique , almost exactly 16days. Headwinds out of Las Palmas so no spinnakers till clear of Gran canariA, tho then flew big parasailor symm for a week 24/7 in up to 30knots, but max on sail 20knots. Bigger that usual winds first week, calmer than usual second week. First squalls came in a six pack, but I still got the cockpit cleaned. Prolly like the sensible captain I think the westbound trip often under-estimated, eastbound perhaps overestimated.
 

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45 years after Rod Stewart made 'sailing ' famous, the Time of year for the ARC is here. The first part, ARC+ has long gone from Las Palmas and all boats are in Mindelo. Delayed two days for bat bug testing, they should get off tomorrow.

Main event on Sunday. Lots of excited people I guess, ready to rock. Especially so knowing all the things that may change on the way, more what ifs than ever the sailing gives.

Good luck to them all, doing something......positive, er, you know what I mean. ?
Quite a big party the Arc... I have just posted on my Sailing Gently YouTube channel a video called the Atlantic Crossing Guide which is the DIY version of the Arc...https://youtu.be/Sailing Gently
 

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Unsurprisingly a very small fleet this year. Perhaps a quarter of the size compared to when we did it.

And a quick scan I suspect only one long keeled boat - the regular Peter Von Seestermuhe.

So I see that Peter von Seestermuhe, the hard driven classic yawl with a great handicap, has yet again won overall on handicap.

But the tiny Pogo 30 crossed the line just a few hours behind - and was second overall on handicap. The Pogo 30 finished before a lotof hugely bigger boats, an Amel 50 an hour or so behind, an Oyster 825 behind that .... and lots of much bigger boats up to a week behind.

https://www.worldcruising.com/content/S637440589680391970/Division 1 Class A & B.pdf
 
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