Are Raggies aliens?

[OAF]

This is not a Raggies bashing thread nor is it knocking Raggies thread but I have to ask the question.

Whilst out this weekend I made a point of saying hello, nodding my cap, even waving at the many Raggies that I saw out on the water, I would say that 75% acknowledged me, but then there were those that blanked me, fair enough if they are grumpy,but it doesn't take much to crack a smile, but the one thing I cannot understand is, when we were coming back in t the Hamble at lunch time on Sunday we were following a long line of Raggies and we spotted a small sunseeker just in the channel with its engine lid up, all the Raggies just went round it and offered no support, I shouted over is all ok to which the reply came, no all of our oil has gone I took them in tow and dropped them safely at their marina, why did none of the passing Raggies offer any sort of help? Was it because it was a motor boat? Was it because it was the 25 % of grumpy ones that are out there that happened to be passing at that time!

Is it me or is there a ' them or us' mentality out there or are some of them just aliens?

 

[thomshap]

I've been a raggie on and off for years, if you had to bugger about with all that rope and the effort of putting up and adjusting sails all the time then you'd be bloody miserable too.

 

[OAF]

I've been a raggie on and off for years, if you had to bugger about with all that rope and the effort of putting up and adjusting sails all the time then you'd be bloody miserable too.

I have often thought that the heaving and buggering around with lots of ropes and sails must be exhausting, I suppose it would make me a bit grumpy if I had to do it, can you get electric gizmos that do it for you? That would be much better and may be make them happier!

 

[DougH]

Is it me or is there a ' them or us' mentality out there or are some of them just aliens?

The vast percentage of SOLENT raggies are plumbers with their brains removed.

in all other areas raggies are very reasonable and agreeable people.

The SOLENT raggies (who rarely travel past the Isle of Wight) like to consider themselves master mariners.

Yes I accept that there is some very fine experienced seaman who travel vast distances but in the main it is these people who would have offered assistance and not ignored a fellow boater possibly in distress.

 

[Sneds]

Round these ere parts it's normally mobos pulling raggies off the rocks or towing them into Cardiff.
All done with grace and goodwill, you never know when you might want the favour returned!
But to ignore an obviously broken down and stranded boat is criminal.
SOLAS

 

[Searush]

Hiya, Dave,

Of course we are all aliens, which reminds me, I must drop by to replace a propane gas cyclinder before I choke on your earth atmosphere & get some Red Diesel for a blood transfusion.



Incidentally, I think your problem is Hamble based. I have been rescued by a raggie when my engine dumped all its oil in the bilges & I was drifting while & tried to find out what had happened & assess my options. I have also rescued/salvaged stranded mobos fom time to time with no contact or thanks from the owners.

Most car drivers simply drive past broken down cars these days, they would never have done that back in the 50's & 60's when I first started driving. Few people will pick up hitch-hikers today either & yet most are pretty interesting people.

 

[OAF]

Hiya, Dave,

Of course we are all aliens, which reminds me, I must drop by to replace a propane gas cyclinder before I choke on your earth atmosphere & get some Red Diesel for a blood transfusion.



Incidentally, I think your problem is Hamble based. I have been rescued by a raggie when my engine dumped all its oil in the bilges & I was drifting while & tried to find out what had happened & assess my options. I have also rescued/salvaged stranded mobos fom time to time with no contact or thanks from the owners.

Most car drivers simply drive past broken down cars these days, they would never have done that back in the 50's & 60's when I first started driving. Few people will pick up hitch-hikers today either & yet most are pretty interesting people.

As always I have plenty of gas, and plenty of Of the red stuff and you know it's the cheapest! You are always more than welcome to land you alien craft at my place!

I often pick up hitch hikers, as you say some of them can be quite interesting, it also helps break up a long journey.

By the way I don't rembember the 50's and 60's lol

 

[OAF]

The vast percentage of SOLENT raggies are plumbers with their brains removed

That explains a lot, my ex wife ran off with a plumber, I wonder if he sailed!

 

[Searider]

Few people will pick up hitch-hikers today

Here's a top tip for you O wise one.

Wear a lifejacket when hitch hiking. Works every time. Even in Reading.

 

[Poignard]

. Few people will pick up hitch-hikers today either & yet most are pretty interesting people.

I am always willing to pick up hitch-hikers who are 'pretty' and 'interesting' but the few hitch-hikers I see nowadays look as if they would cut your throat for twopence.

 

[l'escargot]

It is something about some Hamble marinas (and Bucklers Hard) and not limited to Raggies. Residents seem to exist in a bubble oblivious to all around them, they can't even acknowledge you as you pass in opposite directions on the pontoons, let alone out on the water. I haven't encountered it anywhere else.

 

[Tugw]

Strange really, I have to say that the only time I've had a problem was in Padstow.I was leaving the marina on one engine with very limited space,there was a pillock stood on the fly bride with his hands on his hips screaming and shouting about him wanting my berth and would I hurry up and bugger off.If I had had the time I would have punched his lites out for him.im still waiting to meet that pillock again and educate him a bit.on the other hand all the raggies I have met(with the exception of those in my home town) have been really friendly and helpful.I suppose we all have bad days

 

[clyst]

It is something about some Hamble marinas (and Bucklers Hard) and not limited to Raggies. Residents seem to exist in a bubble oblivious to all around them, they can't even acknowledge you as you pass in opposite directions on the pontoons, let alone out on the water. I haven't encountered it anywhere else.

I haven't encountered it anywhere else.

You have never been to Brixham then .

 

[volvopaul]

Simon, up here above the A 27 bridge is bliss, not a single stick in sight!

 

[prv]

Most car drivers simply drive past broken down cars these days, they would never have done that back in the 50's & 60's when I first started driving.

A big part of that is that practically everyone has a mobile phone. Many or most will also have a subscription to a breakdown service (AA, RAC or Green Flag). So I could pull over, but they probably already have a mechanic in a van on the way; what use am I going to add?

If the driver was waving at cars trying to attract attention, I'd probably stop.

Few people will pick up hitch-hikers today either & yet most are pretty interesting people.

I have a vague intention to give hitchers a lift, but they have a habit of standing just where it's impossible for cars to stop. At my local motorway junction there is a layby just before the roundabout; if they waited there with a sign it would be easy for people to stop and pick them up. Instead, when there is a hitcher there (which is rare) they invariably stand on the junction itself, around a corner so you can't see them until they're right next to you and you're accelerating up the sliproad with nowhere to stop.

It was probably much easier when all you old-timers were trundling around at 40mph in your Hilman Imps

Pete

 

[BlueSkyNick]

This is not a Raggies bashing thread nor is it knocking Raggies thread but I have to ask the question.

Whilst out this weekend I made a point of saying hello, nodding my cap, even waving at the many Raggies that I saw out on the water, I would say that 75% acknowledged me, but then there were those that blanked me, fair enough if they are grumpy,but it doesn't take much to crack a smile, but the one thing I cannot understand is, when we were coming back in t the Hamble at lunch time on Sunday we were following a long line of Raggies and we spotted a small sunseeker just in the channel with its engine lid up, all the Raggies just went round it and offered no support, I shouted over is all ok to which the reply came, no all of our oil has gone I took them in tow and dropped them safely at their marina, why did none of the passing Raggies offer any sort of help? Was it because it was a motor boat? Was it because it was the 25 % of grumpy ones that are out there that happened to be passing at that time!

Is it me or is there a ' them or us' mentality out there or are some of them just aliens?

When you write **** like this, there is little wonder that people 'blank you' and your wife ran off, with or without a plumber.

 

[Loggo]

Whilst out this weekend I made a point of saying hello, nodding my cap, even waving at the many Raggies that I saw out on the water, I would say that 75% acknowledged me, but then there were those that blanked me

Could they, by some chance, be related to narrowboaters ??

 

[Boathook]

To many boats in the Solent to wave to unless you know them. Outside the solent it is different unless by a major centre such as Poole.
Whilst I have helped others by towing they have been much smaller than me as I am limited on 'towing power'.

 

[Chrusty 1]

When you write **** like this, there is little wonder that people 'blank you' and your wife ran off, with or without a plumber.

I don't know how small a small Sunseeker is, or how much it weighs, but I would inform the OP, that most raggie boats only have a very small engine, it is an auxiliary not the primary means of propulsion. That could be why they didn't offer a tow?

On the other hand, they could all have just been miserable bastids, and couldn't be bothered, who knows? What I do know is posts like the OP, do not help win friends and influence people. What they do achieve however is to re-enforce people prejudices.

 

[volvopaul]

When you write **** like this, there is little wonder that people 'blank you' and your wife ran off, with or without a plumber.

Nick to be honest I think he has a point here, as I exit and enter the hamble every time I go to sea.

Just recently I went to the aid of a rib just off cal shot that was taking on water, no engine and four people on board that by the time I had got to them looked a little frightened and worse for the event.

Easy for you to slag Simon on this yet I will tell you a 100% fact when i helped this rib I was half a mile away, when I responded to Solent coastguards call for help there were many yachts around him yet no help at all, my wife even commented why do yachts ignore the coastguards calls to help this rib.

The last time I heard a mayday was off the beulieu river, two yachts had hit each other racing, one was taking on water, and in there panic ran aground, at no time did the other yacht involved respond to the coastguards call to firstly identify themselves let alone return to the scene and help the boat they had holed, exchange details etc.
It took another vessel to basically grass up over the air the model and name of the vessel involved, at hearing this the said boat then came over the radio and owned up to his cowardly actions, by the time we arrived at lymington her majesty's coastguard were gladly waiting for him, no doubt to give him a real talking to.

This case has clearly stuck in my mind, I have never had the attitude of it's the them and us scenario however I'd clearly agree that what Simon has posted about is clearly the case.