Are boat builders tone deaf?

I’d enjoy by boat less if it didn’t have decent music.

In the saloon I have domestic bookshelf speakers plus a subwoofer. You get a decent stereo image.

Outside I’ve two zones. And I can play them all together if I wish. Or empathise where I’m sitting. 4 x 2kW amplifiers.

And link to my friends boat by WiFi when rafting. So we can all play the same music.

We wouldn’t normally intend to annoy others. But it is handy to wind it up loud to drown out the sounds of moaners occasionally.
 
DangerousPirate said:
You know THIS is the load of rubbish. I don't go around telling you how to enjooy yourself, and you don't get to tell me how I should enjoy myself. Who gives you the right to say that the way I enjoy things is wrong? Who the hell do you think you are?

"music oligarchs" and their plot to make me listen to their music eh L M A O!

What are you trying to prove? It is. If someone plays music quietly in their cockpit, not for the whple anchprage, then nothings wrong with that
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You may enjoy yourself as you wish but you have absolutely zero right to compel others to suffer annoyance or irritation while you seek your pleasure, hence my comparison with smoking. Your answers demonstrate your complete inability to understand that others may find your idea of music intolerable at any volume level. Your music is only permissable if nobody whatsoever who may not want to hear it can in fact do so. This is an entirely modern phenomenon that simply wouldn't have existed fifty years ago, and you are effectively saying that the onus is on the rest of us to approve, a complete reversal of common morality.
 
dgadee said:
Sound travels over water.
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Ah yes.. People in their dinghys talking about other boats owners over their Seagull outboard.. Comes across quite clearly.
Part of the, now, inclination of people to inflict their choice of 'muszac' on others.. A lot of the joy on the water is the natural sounds about one.

Recent new neighbours, a divorcee and her two kids. Nice enough, but her 'bloke' drives up with the bass on max in his car. Can't imagine what it is like in the car with bump, bump. Crass.
 
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Whacking out the beats when moored is a little antisocial but if your on the move then fair game as anyone that can hear it won't hear it for long?
People in the uk can seem miserable as they react negatively to anything they don't like, elsewhere people cheer, dance and smile..
I noticed it seems obligitary in the caribbean for a motor powered boat to have a crazy loud system and make use of it. JBL seems to be the weapon of choice.
I can see why as the sound quality and bass are amazing, ideal for pumping out reggaeton. I had to buy one for my centre consol and anywhere else i want portable music. 24hrs run time at 80% vol and waterproof to 1 metre for 30 mins so even the fish can enjoy the sounds ;) .
I antifouled a bilge keel on the foreshore/slipway with my jbl at a fair volume. Never had so many people stop to chat and not a single note of disaproval. Was all in good spirits.
Spent a week sailing on a friends yacht, no radio😵. Couldnt wait to get back in my car and listen to something, anything..
I always have a radio when working if possible. Always have in on while doing my tax return. Its company when there is no one else around.
We all have different views and opinions on music . I thought it was meant to bring people together, not turn some against each other...
 
Rappey said:
Whacking out the beats when moored is a little antisocial but if your on the move then fair game as anyone that can hear it won't hear it for long?
People in the uk can seem miserable as they react negatively to anything they don't like, elsewhere people cheer, dance and smile..
I noticed it seems obligitary in the caribbean for a motor powered boat to have a crazy loud system and make use of it. JBL seems to be the weapon of choice.
I can see why as the sound quality and bass are amazing, ideal for pumping out reggaeton. I had to buy one for my centre consol and anywhere else i want portable music. 24hrs run time at 80% vol and waterproof to 1 metre for 30 mins so even the fish can enjoy the sounds ;) .
I antifouled a bilge keel on the foreshore/slipway with my jbl at a fair volume. Never had so many people stop to chat and not a single note of disaproval. Was all in good spirits.
Spent a week sailing on a friends yacht, no radio😵. Couldnt wait to get back in my car and listen to something, anything..
I always have a radio when working if possible. Always have in on while doing my tax return. Its company when there is no one else around.
We all have different views and opinions on music . I thought it was meant to bring people together, not turn some against each other...
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But when out sailing aren’t you surprised at how noticeable mobo engines are? Often they can be heard before seen and after passing seem to drone on for a surprisingly long time. This is not a moan, simply an observation.

As to music one man’s joy is another’s agony. I like my Elgar but I’d never submit others to Jacqueline’s cello unless they were willing recipients.
 
johnalison said:
You may enjoy yourself as you wish but you have absolutely zero right to compel others to suffer annoyance or irritation while you seek your pleasure, hence my comparison with smoking. Your answers demonstrate your complete inability to understand that others may find your idea of music intolerable at any volume level. Your music is only permissable if nobody whatsoever who may not want to hear it can in fact do so. This is an entirely modern phenomenon that simply wouldn't have existed fifty years ago, and you are effectively saying that the onus is on the rest of us to approve, a complete reversal of common morality.
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What you don't understand and quite possibly don't want to understand about volume is that lower volume indeed means you are NOT compelled to listen to my stuff because it's not loud enough that you hear it.
 
GEM43 said:
But when out sailing aren’t you surprised at how noticeable mobo engines are
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After 40 years of sailing in the solent - No. There are hovercrafts, jetskis ,helicopters and lots of power boats. You get used to it.. if you want peace and quiet then one can go out the of solent and it suddenly becomes very empty and quiet.
 
Rappey said:
After 40 years of sailing in the solent - No. There are hovercrafts, jetskis ,helicopters and lots of power boats. You get used to it.. if you want peace and quiet then one can go out the of solent and it suddenly becomes very empty and quiet.
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Yes, I did, West Scotland.
 
An example; Extreme..
We rented a Sunsail boat to baresail the Outer Sporades. Great trip.
BUT, on return to base, the flotilla mob had to party all night with very loud music, so nobody got any sleep.
The flotilla leader told us the next day that they had to split the group as the sane ones didn't want to be any where near the party lot.
We were hoping that that they were so drunk in the morning that the airline would not allow them on the plane.
No justice, the plane was hours late and they were more or less compass. Certain frigid atmosphere on the flight. But they didn't care.
 
My attitude towards other peoples music changed last year when i visited Curacao. I liked how others received it in a positive way.
We were sat in a restaurant by the road side in a busy town at night and could hear a vehicle with very loud music approaching.
Next a 4x4 went by towing a 60ft centre consol with 6 outboards, all the underwater and interior lights flashing and changing colours, very loud music and the boat was full of people dancing and having great fun. Lots of cheers from many as this boat went by. Couldnt do that in the uk !
 
Alicatt said:
Here I am thinking of removing the speakers in the saloon, they are big, get in the road of the pull-out bed, and they sound terrible, don't know what the previous owner was thinking putting in those cheap car parcel shelf speakers. :(


2 sound transducers rather
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If you have room for these (they are very small W 145 x H 236 x D 165) they are unbelievably good for their size and price.
I supplement them with an under seat subwoofer but the bass is perfectly decent for such a small speaker.
Four 1” squares of Velcro hold them down.

Wharfedale Diamond 9.0 (Black)
 
Elessar said:
If you have room for these (they are very small W 145 x H 236 x D 165) they are unbelievably good for their size and price.
I supplement them with an under seat subwoofer but the bass is perfectly decent for such a small speaker.
Four 1” squares of Velcro hold them down.

Wharfedale Diamond 9.0 (Black)
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The speaker of choice for many pub jukebox companies, definitely on price.
I’ve happily thrown many a set into the skip over the last 30odd years. Unless the v9.0 is made differently, the cheap chipboard or mdf they are usually made with doesn’t last well outdoor or in a vaguely damp atmosphere. At least the bass diver isn’t an exposed metal chassis with a paper cone anymore.
Moulded plastic boxes with fully synthetic speaker cones last better and don’t sound any worse.
 
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Elessar said:
If you have room for these (they are very small W 145 x H 236 x D 165) they are unbelievably good for their size and price.
I supplement them with an under seat subwoofer but the bass is perfectly decent for such a small speaker.
Four 1” squares of Velcro hold them down.

Wharfedale Diamond 9.0 (Black)
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I would prefer the 25i compact from PMC, I use PMC in my home theatre and I am exceedingly happy with them.
The point is moot though I am just thinking of blanking off the hole in the under seat as we don't really do music or other entertainment on the boat
 
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