Antifoul quote

[Neeves]

I agree with Tranona. You only need to sand the hull to provide a key for the primer, once - let the yard do it, let the yard sort out the waterline. Next time you will need a power wash, commonly done by the yard (for which you pay), vessel placed on stands and the next coat of AF, in a years time might easily be put on top of this first AF (though you might enjoy sanding down yourself (but I think it unnecessary). When the yard make this first foray into AF for you - I'd hang around and watch what they do.

International tend to be the most expensive AF, or one of the most expensive, and maybe you could save a bit by using cheaper. I'd ask locals to you, or where you venture out, and see what AF they use.

AF works best if applied generously, skimping saves money (short term) but means the AF will not last as long.

I think you need to ask what treatment they are going to give to your prop etc - Propspeed has made big inroads into the MOBO market - but its not cheap (either to buy or apply). If you have a fouled prop - you will be going no-where quickly and your hull will also foul as a result of the low speeds. Regular usage and that generous coating, min of 2 coats, is the way to go.

On doing it yourself - we also found it immensely satisfying - you start of with a really grotty hull but then you finish she will look lovely.

Jonathan

 

[Wansworth]

Where do you draw the line…….with maximum crew or light just floating……there are other considerations like the painting of the engine underwater parts and anodes if required,really depends on the skill set of the op

 

[scozzy]

As we all know, there are innumerable ways to spend money on our beloveds and for me like others it's a job I do myself.Not just to save money but ..well...its my boat and I love a tinker!
If you are confident in their work etc and it feels right, it doesn't seem outrageous ££ for a full service but if possible I'd watch them do it....not to instill mistrust while they slave away...but to learn how to do it yourself in future

 

[Daydream believer]

Trouble with doing it one's self is that unless you pay the yard to put it on props it will be on a trailer. That makes it a devil of a job to get access for sanding.Plus, painting round the rollers will be an issue. The trailer will be well antifouled in the process
The suggestion made in #15 is most likely a non runner because the boat does not have a keel & is relatively flat bottomed. So access would probably be restricted.
I would reckon that:-
Taking delivery at the yard getting gantry for hoisting & setting up on stands 1.5 hours( 2 blokes 45 mins)
Abrasion & marking out, would take an operative 3 hours- it is a job no one likes!!
Set up, clean up after & apply a coat of paint 1.5 hours so prime +2 =3 * 1.5 = 4.5hours
Move the props ( gantry again) etc & return to touch up 3 coats 3 hours in 3 processes
total 12 hours. So the 12 hours quoted by the company for an operative would be a fair quote & how I would have prepared it for a client. I would plan the job over a 3-4 day period, possibly bonus the operative.
Do not forget that this is not like a warehouse or factory, where I used to pressure the staff with targets. Marina staff tend to be more laid back & if one starts hassling them, they jolly soon walk. They have skills that a good yard needs so the owners have to give & take on output
I would probably not charge £45/hour, but there is the question of plant- lifting equipment props overheads etc. which has to be accounted for. In the end the company has to make a profit & there is not a lot in £ 450 (£540 after the vat paid) if something went tits up

 

[SailingDog]

Trouble with doing it one's self is that unless you pay the yard to put it on props it will be on a trailer. That makes it a devil of a job to get access for sanding.Plus, painting round the rollers will be an issue. The trailer will be well antifouled in the process
The suggestion made in #15 is most likely a non runner because the boat does not have a keel & is relatively flat bottomed. So access would probably be restricted.
I would reckon that:-
Taking delivery at the yard getting gantry for hoisting & setting up on stands 1.5 hours( 2 blokes 45 mins)
Abrasion & marking out, would take an operative 3 hours- it is a job no one likes!!
Set up, clean up after & apply a coat of paint 1.5 hours so prime +2 =3 * 1.5 = 4.5hours
Move the props ( gantry again) etc & return to touch up 3 coats 3 hours in 3 processes
total 12 hours. So the 12 hours quoted by the company for an operative would be a fair quote & how I would have prepared it for a client. I would plan the job over a 3-4 day period, possibly bonus the operative.
Do not forget that this is not like a warehouse or factory, where I used to pressure the staff with targets. Marina staff tend to be more laid back & if one starts hassling them, they jolly soon walk. They have skills that a good yard needs so the owners have to give & take on output
I would probably not charge £45/hour, but there is the question of plant- lifting equipment props overheads etc. which has to be accounted for. In the end the company has to make a profit & there is not a lot in £ 450 (£540 after the vat paid) if something went tits up

S, you have priced for a bigger job than the Op originally floated (pardon the pun) If the original quote includes stands and lifts by the yard along with full prep, materials and antifoul it’s a jolly good price.

 

[Tranona]

Where do you draw the line…….with maximum crew or light just floating……there are other considerations like the painting of the engine underwater parts and anodes if required,really depends on the skill set of the op

Static waterline. The boat spends 90%+ of its time stationary afloat in the marina and that is when the fouling occurs so the antifoul has to cover that area.