Another fake teak deck thread - which is best?

[MapisM]

I took the boat to the med and I found it changed colour and went a bit darker and it did get really hot to stand on in the summer months.

In the UK I would probably prefer it over real teak for simplicity of maintenance and durability. In the med either real teak or white gel coat please.

I struggle with your "either teak or gel coat in the Med" logic.
The first is neither good for simplicity of maintenance nor durability, whilst exactly the opposite is true for the second.

Besides, if you think that real teak doesn't get as hot (or hotter) than flexiteek or other synthetic stuff, well, think again.

 

[MapisM]

we have Dek-King butted up against a 2 x 1 of real teak and no-one has been able tell the difference yet.

Mmmm...
I'm not posting my notorious BS flag just because I have no first hand experience on Dek-King.
But boys, was I tempted...

 

[iowman]

Teak

Last spring I had the interior of my boat re floored with a product called Tek-Dek.

This is fitted and sold by Simon Clarke. I cannot reccomend this too highly.
Looks Brilliant and good under foot.

Genuine product from a skilled professional.

http://www.yacht-tek.co.uk/ Simon's mobile Tel 07857 425 878

 

[trying]

Sounds from the various replies like Flexiteek seems to be getting the most positive comments... can any of you who have compared the various products give an idea how the prices compared?

 

[Vara]

I have decided on fake teak for Evenstar 4.

I loved the real teak on Evenstar 3 and it's not so terrible to maintain. Even so as the boat does some teaching the idea of being able to jet wash it instead of getting the 2 part and semco out appeals.

This looks great, and the whole boat is a credit to DAKA (even if he hasn't learned to drive properly yet, he knows how to look after a boat)

A lot of the impact is in the detail of the fit. This looks superb.

As has been discussed elsewhere, Esthec is expensive and hopeless due to the grain being all wrong.

Daka's is tek dek, there is permateek and the wilkes one marketed as dek-king which the blokes who fitted Daka's now do.

Any others?

Permateek is pro only as it has a weld a fillet in joining system.

The others have tongue and groove, and are glued so can be pro or DIY.

I think I want to template it myself, get the mats made pro and stick it down myself.

I have two of the Permteek colours here in front of me. They do traditional and modern, the former being too perfect and orangey, the latter looking like slightly weathered but pre silvered, clean teak. I like this one.

The former, varnished, would look good as a table or inside.

Daka's doesn't look too david dickenson but photos don't do colour well necessarily.

And what about surface, I have seen some fake teak, name unknown, that is way too smooth.

So - which make - comments please.
Do only Permateek have different colours? The websites are all bling and scarce information, the wilkes one is quite good but doesn't mention colour.

Have a word with OR4751, don't know what it is but it looks pretty good.

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335899

 

[PCUK]

Just for MapisM!

 

[MapisM]

Well, I said that I have no experience, and I'm afraid I still don't.
I'd never dare rating as "first hand experience" just the viewing of a pic, but I'm still willing to bet that I'd spot the difference, if I could touch and smell both materials.
Probably also in the dark...

 

[Freeloader]

I had Permateek fitted earlier in the summer by Darren Lunn of Decking Inspirations and I'm very impressed with the results.

My Regal 2250 is not a big boat but the cockpit and swim platform required lots of separate small teak panels. This was time consuming but Darren was very conscientious and was prepared to put in as much time as the job required. He has a good eye for detail too and finished the job to a very high standard.

I got quotes for several different brands of teak finish and more than one quote for each brand. However, I was disappointed with the response from a number of the suppliers - they often failed to properly address my questions and gave me the impression that they weren’t listening to what I wanted. It didn’t fill me with confidence and some of the quotes were astronomic too.

By contrast, Darren was always quick to answer e-mail correspondence and came across well on the telephone. He answered all my questions fully, offered helpful suggestions of his own and gave me the impression that he enjoyed, and was good at, his work.

Permateek is available in several colours but I went for the lighter ‘Permateek Modern’ with the ‘Ivory’ caulking, rather than the usual black, as this seemed to best suit the interior and upholstery of my boat. Also, I went for a borderless finish – this is slightly cheaper as it requires less work but I primarily went for this as the number of small panels would have made a bordered finish look far too fussy.

Anyway, enough of the chat – here are the photos of the finished article:

(Note that the colour balance isn't quite right in the photos - the teak looks less orangey and more natural in reality)

 

[benjenbav]

Looks great FL. I think you got it bang on with the choice of ivory caulking.

 

[PaulGooch]

Looks great FL. I think you got it bang on with the choice of ivory caulking.

Agreed, the borderless option looks good too.

 

[GSL]

Hi Freeloader

That looks stunning, as others have said, both the borderless aspect and the white caulking, well done.

Graham

 

[andy59]

That is a really nice job Freeloader , looks very clean and fresh and its nice that you can get away with not having the border with the fake teak .
Here is a sample of Flexiteek on my (real ) flybridge steps .

.

 

[Freeloader]

Andy, that Flexiteek sample looks to be a very good match to your real teak decks - I take it that it's the lighter coloured Flexiteek?

The Permateek and Flexiteek samples that I received were very similar to each other, although the Flexiteek did look very slightly lighter than the corresponding Permateek ones (both in the lighter 'Modern' and darker 'Traditional'). To my eyes, there did not seem to be anything to choose between the two in terms of colour or quality but, ultimately, my choice came down to the guy who was going to do the job. My initial impressions and confidence that Darren really knew what he was doing were confirmed by the finishsed job. The templating was spot on to the original non-skid patterning on the deck and the installation was done to a high standard, with all the edges given a neat radiused finish and a small bead of silicone to hide any visible deck joins. I would note here that some of the finishes I have seen have been shocking (even some factory-fit jobs), with rough square-cut edges and unsightly bonding of the teak / GRP.

I have had the darker Permateek with black caulking on a previous boat and found that it wore very well and did not need much attention. However, the lighter 'Modern' teak and ivory caulking do get dirty more quickly and pick up marks from black non-boaty footwear. It cleans up easily enough with a bit of detergent and a deck brush but it's better to avoid crew wearing shoes with black 'Commando'-style tread in the first place!

I did wonder whether to do the foredeck too, either entirely or just a strip down the middle (as per some of the Scandanavian boats), but decided to leave it as plain GRP. It's surprising how quickly the non-skid finish gets dirty and how difficult it is to clean up (especially after seagulls...) and so I might reconsider. I would be interested to hear everyone's thoughts - would this be a step too far?

 

[andy59]

Personally not a fan of teak on the foredeck of sporty type mobos , unless they are over a certain size if you know what i mean . But each to their own .

 

[Freeloader]

I don't really want to hijack the thread but... here's a comparison of what the boat currently looks like, along with a mock-up of what it would look like with the foredeck partially or fully finished with Permateek:

 

[vas]

I don't really want to hijack the thread but... here's a comparison of what the boat currently looks like, along with a mock-up of what it would look like with the foredeck partially or fully finished with Permateek:

I'd only go for the rear so to speak cover. Wouldn't bother with the bows, imho it gets too busy and tiring...

BTW, whats the square "pan" with the sofas in front?

cheers

V.

 

[MapisM]

BTW, whats the square "pan" with the sofas in front?

If you mean the "cube" in the middle of the bow cabin, under the cushions, that's a chemical toilet.

I fully agree with your viewpoint on the bow, fwiw.
I'd rather consider spending some money to remove it, if it was there in the first place...!

 

[Whitelighter]

Whichever system you choose, please make sure you make the panels up with a proper boarder.

 

[Elessar]

Whichever system you choose, please make sure you make the panels up with a proper boarder.

I intend to have a border. However the non border on the sport boat here really works, for my boat borders it is.

I was really anti the pale caulking but having seen this I am now confused.

 

[Whitelighter]

I really like the white caulking (see john's thread) but non-edged team just looks cheap.

That sports boat look ok, but wold have looked a lot better with properly laid edged panels