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Pete, we have a Kenwood K23CM13 Micro/Grill/Oven on board Rafiki. For us it is perfect. Currently on special offer at Curry's, £90 ish, down from about £180. We are buying another for home as we are so pleased with it on board. We have used the hob, maybe 1 or 2 times in 4 years. Having said that we don't cook a roast lunch or anything of that ilk on board. Why would you? Boat is for chilling.

Precisely.

The key will be to find an oven that I can fit into the existing enclosure or a filler panel.
 
The concrete quays are not that high, and your boat is small/light enough that you can just pull it in via the ropes and jump on and off.

A passarelle will make life easier,but is in no way essential.
 
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The concrete quays are not that high, and your boat is small/light enough that you can just pull it in via the ropes and jump on and off.

A passarelle will make life easier,but is in no way essential.

Not sure thats true. For example the concrete quays at Club de Mar are relatively high (at least on the berths we used) and I'm not sure even a toned athlete like Pete could clamber from a bathing platform up onto some of the quays there. Also I know its common with small boats in the Med but for absentee owners who dont live near their boats I dont think its a good idea to leave the bow lines loose enough such that you can pull the boat to the quay because if you can do that then so can a heavy wind. Many years ago the bathing platform of my Targa 48 was damaged in France when the boat was moved to another berth by marina staff without my knowledge and they left the bow lines a little loose with the result that the next mistral pushed the boat onto the quay

Get a pasarelle and have an easier and safer boating experience!
 
Not sure thats true. For example the concrete quays at Club de Mar are relatively high (at least on the berths we used) and I'm not sure even a toned athlete like Pete could clamber from a bathing platform up onto some of the quays there. Also I know its common with small boats in the Med but for absentee owners who dont live near their boats I dont think its a good idea to leave the bow lines loose enough such that you can pull the boat to the quay because if you can do that then so can a heavy wind. Many years ago the bathing platform of my Targa 48 was damaged in France when the boat was moved to another berth by marina staff without my knowledge and they left the bow lines a little loose with the result that the next mistral pushed the boat onto the quay

Get a pasarelle and have an easier and safer boating experience!

In our case, height is more of an issue than agility! I do recall a bit of a clamber onto a Targa 40 that we viewed in Club De Mar but the issues was eased on another boat in Portals where they had a metal step bolted onto the quay. It does feel like this could be something that we suss out when we're there, i.e. look at the solutions similar boats are adopting.
 
Yep, fitted ours as if it were made for the job!

Paul, doesn't you're fit into a cabinet with a door?

Ours is like this...

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...so we need to find a domestic one with the same dimensions or a stainless steel filler panel. Incidentally I think there's power to it already for the ignition. I'm not sure if the hob is part of the old oven or a separate component. Either way, blanking it off will need a little thought..
 
In our case, height is more of an issue than agility! I do recall a bit of a clamber onto a Targa 40 that we viewed in Club De Mar but the issues was eased on another boat in Portals where they had a metal step bolted onto the quay. It does feel like this could be something that we suss out when we're there, i.e. look at the solutions similar boats are adopting.

I'm sure your SWMBO will just love clambering down a metal step onto your boat in the dark after a few too many sangrias at the local bar. Thats a surefire way to sell her on this Med boating lark;)

You can always keep a wooden plank on the boat for difficult to access quays. I'm sure your SWMBO will love that too
 
Hmm, regarding pulling the boat to the quay,you have obviously had a different experience to me. But our boats stay in the water 365 days per year, and are left for weeks at a time,and can be pulled towards the quay by the lines and weve never had any issues. We have fixed loops in the bow lines ,so we always get the same tension in the home marina.

Maybe it becomes unfeasible to do this on larger heavier boats,but certainly on all the boats weve owned up to 37 foot length we've never had any issues.

We dont have a pasarelle on the windy 37, just pull it in, and jump on/off no problem.

The windy 25 is too small for passarelle, but again no problem jumping on and off.

The old sealine s34 was again fine. Etc etc.

Im guessing at 34 foot petes boat will be fine without pasarelle,but its up to the individual.

If you are of more restricted mobility you will struggle without a pasarelle

My main point on this subject, is that undoubtably a pasarelle makes life easier,but when budgets are tight and with a small ish boat, its way down my list of things to spend money on, and you can manage just fine in mallorca without one in my opinion.
 
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Hmm, regarding pulling the boat to the quay,you have obviously had a different experience to me. But our boats stay in the water 365 days per year, and are left for weeks at a time,and can be pulled towards the quay by the lines and weve never had any issues. We have fixed loops in the bow lines ,so we always get the same tension in the home marina.
Since the Targa 48 we've always had flybridge boats and those carry a lot more windage than a sports cruiser so when we leave the boat I'm always careful to leave them well away from the quay and with the bow lines as tight as possible. I just wouldnt be comfortable leaving the boat more loosely tied up such that you could pull it to the quay to get on. Different opinions thats all
 
Paul, doesn't you're fit into a cabinet with a door?

Ours is like this...

20170602_112140.jpg


...so we need to find a domestic one with the same dimensions or a stainless steel filler panel. Incidentally I think there's power to it already for the ignition. I'm not sure if the hob is part of the old oven or a separate component. Either way, blanking it off will need a little thought..

Am I missing something Pete?
Why are you removing the SMEV oven?

cheers

V.
 
Paul, doesn't you're fit into a cabinet with a door?

Ours is like this...

20170602_112140.jpg


...so we need to find a domestic one with the same dimensions or a stainless steel filler panel. Incidentally I think there's power to it already for the ignition. I'm not sure if the hob is part of the old oven or a separate component. Either way, blanking it off will need a little thought..
Ours fits into a slot below the hob. No closing panels or doors, but I secure it in place with some felt grommets that the unit's front feet sit in. No issues re movement in any conditions to date, including a really confused sea at Pendeen at Lands End. We were down to 5 kn, rocking and a rolling. You will be able to get the dimensions off the Curry's web site.
 
Paul, doesn't you're fit into a cabinet with a door?

Ours is like this...

20170602_112140.jpg


...so we need to find a domestic one with the same dimensions or a stainless steel filler panel. Incidentally I think there's power to it already for the ignition. I'm not sure if the hob is part of the old oven or a separate component. Either way, blanking it off will need a little thought..

When Fairline boats flush fitted Ovens or Microwave ovens they alway installed them with the manufacturers flush installation kits of followed the manufacturers vent /cooling recommendations beware of this before purchasing a microwave.
 
Just spoken to Fairline and there are 50 swatches of legacy fabric / linings on their way to me. Hopefully one of them will be an exact match for my damaged panel.

So if anyone needs a few metres to repair any panels please let me know and I'll see if I can help.

Whilst this old stock is very unlikely to sell out overnight many of these fabrics are discontinued lines so "when it's gone, it's gone"!
 
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I could do with a piece of the same vinyl type covering (that I am pretty sure must be the same vinyl that you have on the wall where your TV will be mounted).

I am going for the drop down tv bracket from the ceiling (in place of where the blanking plate is in the pic below) so would be good to have a spare piece of vinyl to re-cover this panel if I decide to take TV away rather than having to cover up with an even larger blanking plate (or worse leave holes!).

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what's wrong with gas? I prefer cooking on the hook on gas and not having to start up the geny tbh, but I guess it's a matter of taste.
Naah, we already debated this in the past. It's a matter of attitude, V.
For most Brits, safety has a higher priority than a properly cooked meal...
...Weird from our viewpoint, 'innit? :cool:
 
For most Brits, safety has a higher priority than a properly cooked meal...
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For we Brits a microwave meal beats a properly cooked meal any day so thats why we insist on having a generator;)
 
For we Brits a microwave meal beats a properly cooked meal any day so thats why we insist on having a generator;)

brilliant reply Mike :D

for the record I was brought up on el. hobs and ovens and only in my teens experienced food cooked on gas due to our then holiday house by the sea had no electricity. Same cook (my mom) same ingredients, tasted SO MUCH better! Now have gas on both my houses and the boat, but couldn't find a decent gas oven from SMEG so el. ovens at the houses...

Microwave meals haven't caught up down here (cannot really say am afraid though...) so we are stuck to cooking (or delivery)

cheers

V.
 
Microwave meals haven't caught up down here (cannot really say am afraid though...) so we are stuck to cooking (or delivery)
Count yourself lucky. No British woman below the age of 50 knows how to cook anything other than with a microwave and judging by the girlfriends my son brings home, some dont even know how to do that;)

(Yes I know thats sexist and I can be locked up for saying that!)
 
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