Andiamo - Let's Go!

adey said:
Congrats on the new boat. Was wondering if you'd ever buy one. :)

May as well open the first aid kit. Most of it will probably be out of date.

The Med nav card doesn't look that old. Is there a date on it? Worth logging on to the Navionics site and plugging it in?
You can buy an update card for about £100 if yours won't just download a newer map.
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Thanks!

Looks like the card was bought in July 2013 for £200. Looking at the Navionics web site I should be able to update it. Incidentally, do you then copy the data from the SD card to a generic MicroSD (which is what's in the E7 at the moment)? If that's the case then the new plotter already has UK and Spanish charts (I just need to update them).
 
petem said:
I believe the old plotter is a RL70C. Is the RL80 the same footprint but a later model? What's the advantage over the RL70 (bigger screen)?
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Ops, just by looking at your pics with the cover on I assumed your screen was an 80, but if it's a 70, yep, I believe the only advantage is in the bigger size.
Actually, the 70 I had fitted as a second screen was monochrome (vs. the main 80 which is colour, and much clearer to look at), but I'm not positive about whether the smaller 70 was available only as monochrome or not.
You can obviously check that easily, anyway.
Just in case you might use a second RL70 monochrome, the one I replaced with an 80 is just collecting dust ATM... :)
 
So the RL range was in production until late 2004.
The RL70 was (nominally) a 7" screen and the RL80 an 8" screen.
The basic RL is monochrome (green). The C is colour plotter only. The CR is capable of having a radar added (I think the radar is monochrome). The CRC is a full colour plotter with radar overlay. There was also an L1250 available which was an RL80CRC with the addition of built in sonar.

The RL series use a different radar head to the C/E classic, which in turn use a different head to the C/E hybrid touch screens. In short, the radar associated with the RL70 on your boat will not talk to the E7
 
Whitelighter said:
So the RL range was in production until late 2004.
The RL70 was (nominally) a 7" screen and the RL80 an 8" screen.
The basic RL is monochrome (green). The C is colour plotter only. The CR is capable of having a radar added (I think the radar is monochrome). The CRC is a full colour plotter with radar overlay. There was also an L1250 available which was an RL80CRC with the addition of built in sonar.

The RL series use a different radar head to the C/E classic, which in turn use a different head to the C/E hybrid touch screens. In short, the radar associated with the RL70 on your boat will not talk to the E7
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Thanks Jez. Were the RL's the latest analogue ones then?
 
Whitelighter said:
So the RL range was in production until late 2004.
The RL70 was (nominally) a 7" screen and the RL80 an 8" screen.
The basic RL is monochrome (green). The C is colour plotter only. The CR is capable of having a radar added (I think the radar is monochrome). The CRC is a full colour plotter with radar overlay. There was also an L1250 available which was an RL80CRC with the addition of built in sonar.

The RL series use a different radar head to the C/E classic, which in turn use a different head to the C/E hybrid touch screens. In short, the radar associated with the RL70 on your boat will not talk to the E7
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There was some radar compatibility between the Rl and the c/e classic, but only with certain radomes after a specific serial number.
 
CLB said:
There was some radar compatibility between the Rl and the c/e classic, but only with certain radomes after a specific serial number.
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Yes I'd forgotten that - if you get the SN from your existing scanner it might work on a E80/120 classic but definitky will not work on the E7.

Not the last analogue, digital was an upgrade for quite a while even with the later hybrid screens
 
Many congratulations Pete!

Regarding the leather sofa: i just cleaned mine with Autoglym's leather cleaner and it worked well. If it is really stained, the magic sponge will do the trick. I applid Autoglym leather care balm afterwards.
 
One of the few issues that I've got with the interior of the boat is the TV.

What I really want is this look (thanks to DorsetDan for the link)...

95e82a3a505a89d614b9bd4f5ac2ab73_f4720.jpg


What I have is this (it's a domestic TV that is so large, it needs seatbelts to hold it steady)...

DSCN9964_005.JPG


When I remove the TV this is what's left behind...

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The bracket is actually quite secure as it's screwed into a baton behind the panel. So I've got a number of problems:

1) I can't remove the panel to remove the the Digibox (top left of the panel). It's pretty well tucked into the cabinets on the left and the stairway trim on the right.
2) I'd like to recover the panel but I don't know what make the leatherette vinyl is. I've spoken to Fairline and it's not listed on the BOM. Does anyone know?
3) If I can't match the vinyl, what should I do? My zero option is to get rid of the Digibox then cover the holes with beige screw caps. I think I'd have to keep the TV in that position to cover the mess. I would however get a much smaller TV and perhaps put it on a simple locking arm.
4) Not really an issue but the boat has an inverter to drive the TV. I could wire the new TV into the inverter (that is apparently a bit noisy due to a cooling fan) which would give me a bigger choice of TV's or I could get a 12v TV. If I go for a 12v TV then the inverter is redundant (the boat only has modest batteries so there's not a lot of 240v appliances that I would want to run from them.

All help gratefully received!

Pete
 
Many congrats on the boat, looks fab.

For me the existing position is the best one - a flat wall for the tv to stow against. The existing bracket appears to cantelever out so in my opinion all you need is a correctly sized TV.
 
Hi Pete,

Congrats, you've finally got one!

To answer some of your questions, my new to me boat, has twin RL80C plotters. It also has a c120w as a back up at the lower helm. Having had the newer touch hybrid stuff in my last boat my initial thought was to junk the old stuff and replace it. That said you know we've just travelled 600 plus miles and I have to say how easy the plotters were to use. I will probably replace the old stuff but having used it I'm certainly not in a rush to do so.

The TV, I looked at 12v stuff and I couldn't find any good quality tv's about. In my old boat I used an inverter which was virtually silent and hooked everything up to run off 12v. I.e satellite system, Amazon tv, wifi router and back up 3/4g router.

On this boat I have a dual wan router, picks up wifi in marinas or falls back to mobile network if the wifi isn't available. I have a Tv which is fed from a pc, Amazon fire stick and a fusion DVD player. All running off 12v. The above allows me to watch tv, winter months, use the pc- work unfortunately if required, and all the "kit" is hidden away. If you want any info on what I did let me know.

Now we are in our home port my job next week is to get a glitzy new st/steel sign installed. I'll post some photos of the works.

Regards

Ian
 
petem said:
One of the few issues that I've got with the interior of the boat is the TV.

What I really want is this look (thanks to DorsetDan for the link)...

95e82a3a505a89d614b9bd4f5ac2ab73_f4720.jpg


What I have is this (it's a domestic TV that is so large, it needs seatbelts to hold it steady)...

DSCN9964_005.JPG


When I remove the TV this is what's left behind...

20170722_153356.jpg


The bracket is actually quite secure as it's screwed into a baton behind the panel. So I've got a number of problems:

1) I can't remove the panel to remove the the Digibox (top left of the panel). It's pretty well tucked into the cabinets on the left and the stairway trim on the right.
2) I'd like to recover the panel but I don't know what make the leatherette vinyl is. I've spoken to Fairline and it's not listed on the BOM. Does anyone know?
3) If I can't match the vinyl, what should I do? My zero option is to get rid of the Digibox then cover the holes with beige screw caps. I think I'd have to keep the TV in that position to cover the mess. I would however get a much smaller TV and perhaps put it on a simple locking arm.
4) Not really an issue but the boat has an inverter to drive the TV. I could wire the new TV into the inverter (that is apparently a bit noisy due to a cooling fan) which would give me a bigger choice of TV's or I could get a 12v TV. If I go for a 12v TV then the inverter is redundant (the boat only has modest batteries so there's not a lot of 240v appliances that I would want to run from them.

All help gratefully received!

Pete
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Almost all TV's are 12v already especially the smaller ones so no inverter needed. The plug and box you get with them is a transformer that steps down from 240 v to 12v. All you generally need to do is source a cable to cut out the box which are easy to buy. Check first but this is generally the case.

This is just another way the world rips off boaters and caravaners

Dennis
 
Pete
While in the UK work out to take down the damaged panel get it recovered and replaced -
While down run necessary services to cockpit waterproof sockets . Possibly run an Ariel pug to the master fwd bedroom .
Then just hold fire make good
In the Med your times spent differently more outdoorsy not much "winter nights" in
Buy a free standing TV / DVD combo
Move it to which ever place you wish
1- cockpit @ pm
2- saloon -on the work top
3- fwd cabin -bracket ? Or free standing ( Ian not familiar with the layout )
Put it or them ? out of the way when cruising size them for storage

Thing is with tech 4-5 G etc marina wifi dongles tablets etc -you may find the TV a white elephant -
So declutter the small saloon both pics look daft imho
If when you have USED the boat in the MED a season want it screwed awkwardly to a wall like now then do it
I think they need to be OEMed fully fitted /intergrated to look good .
Your boats interior is gonna have to be ripped open for Aircon anyhow

220v via I verters are better you will be on shore power most of the time
In an idyllic anchorage do you really want to watch TV?
Anyhow the 12 v stuff I heard has voltage issues - that's why inverters are used

Just my 0.02 p worth

Another thing if marina fees are high in the summer or full you will end up on the hook no power - so don, t rule out a geny so fast
You need the ability to explore like the guy in the mag with the V39 and the artic circle
TV is a low priority right now
 
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Hells Bells. What a pigs ear!!!! It never ceases to amaze me what people do to devalue their property with their ill thought out ideas. Hopefully you can manage to find some matching trim to fix the bodge job.

I was enjoying looking at the photos of a fine looking boat until I got to this page and saw that mess of an installation!!

Just one thought on mounting the TV above the cooking area, do you really want all the cooking grease on the screen?
 
Portofino said:
In the Med your times spent differently more outdoorsy not much "winter nights" in

Buy a free standing TV / DVD combo
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+1 on both of those points

I would get a bigger TV, and find somewhere to store it when not in use (most likely I would just chuck it under the covers on the bed :D ) - I'm not a great fan of TVs mounted high up, it just doesn't feel natural to me, and I spend more time looking at the position of the TV than what's actually on the TV itself

Just my two €'s :)
 
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