And here's another one...

[VO5]

And what about the idea of using lighter fuel as thinners when varnishing...has anybody thought of that ?

 

[LadyInBed]

Do you have a non pressurised source?

 

[VO5]

It is not gas I am thinking of, but liquid lighter fuel. It comes in 133 ml cans under the trademark RONSONOL. I use it to clean very delicate precision parts in watches, etc.,

 

[LadyInBed]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zippo-Lighter-Fluid-Petrol-Flints/sim/B003811N7W/2
Answered my own question!

 

[sarabande]

Ronsonol is very volatile, and if the varnish is a water based one you may have miscibility problems. Ditto with classy varnishes containing e.g. tung oil. It would facilitate the increase of the absorbance by the substrate.


It would make a good boaty experiment though


I'd think you would need 5 to 10% by volume. That woull bind into the original mix, but many precautions against toxic benzene vapours while varnishing PLEASE.

 

[pvb]

And what about the idea of using lighter fuel as thinners when varnishing...has anybody thought of that ?

Why? Ronsonol works out at about £20 a litre. Most varnishes can be thinned with white spirit, which is less than a tenth of the price.

 

[VicS]

Why would anyone use Ronsonol at price equivalent to over £20 per litre when you could get white spirit at under £2 per litre?

 

[pvb]

 

[VO5]

Why would anyone use Ronsonol at price equivalent to over £20 per litre when you could get white spirit at under £2 per litre?

Vic, I use white spirit to clean the brush, but it had not occurred to me to use it as a thinner. I think I will have to carry out some experiments.

 

[VicS]

Vic, I use white spirit to clean the brush, but it had not occurred to me to use it as a thinner. I think I will have to carry out some experiments.

What varnish are you using.
Many, if not most, conventional single pack paints and varnishes can be thinned with white spirit.

 

[mtb]

Why? Ronsonol works out at about £20 a litre. Most varnishes can be thinned with white spirit, which is less than a tenth of the price.

wont it go milky ? or is that only when its to cold
I think a good idea is to rub the brush back and forth over fine wet and dry to take the sharp edges off the bristles
I was given that tip many years ago when I used valrex paint to hand splash an a40 somerset

 

[VO5]

wont it go milky ? or is that only when its to cold
I think a good idea is to rub the brush back and forth over fine wet and dry to take the sharp edges off the bristles
I was given that tip many years ago when I used valrex paint to hand splash an a40 somerset

That's an interesting tip, if you will pardon the pun.
What arouses my curiosity is that Ronsonol evaporates more quickly than white spirit, at least when its warm.

 

[pampas]

Think it contains a fair % of Naphtha.

 

[VicS]

Think it contains a fair % of Naphtha.

Yes they do but of different boiling ranges, which is why one evaporates more quickly than the other.

 

[Tranona]

That's an interesting tip, if you will pardon the pun.
What arouses my curiosity is that Ronsonol evaporates more quickly than white spirit, at least when its warm.

Why do you want it to evaporate? Look on the data sheet (or even the back of the tin) for the varnish you are using and it will tell you what to use to thin it. As already suggested most conventional single pot varnishes use white spirit or No1 thinners which is essentially the same thing. Two pot varnishes usually have their own special thinners.

Can't understand what would prompt you to use lighter fuel.

 

[VO5]

Why do you want it to evaporate? Look on the data sheet (or even the back of the tin) for the varnish you are using and it will tell you what to use to thin it. As already suggested most conventional single pot varnishes use white spirit or No1 thinners which is essentially the same thing. Two pot varnishes usually have their own special thinners.

Can't understand what would prompt you to use lighter fuel.

Curiosity, fuelled by imagination, stimulated by thinking outside the box.

 

[Tranona]

Curiosity, fuelled by imagination, stimulated by thinking outside the box.

To what end, when the "solution" to your perceived problem is so well known.

Bit like asking whether you should put axle grease on your toast instead of butter.

 

[VO5]

To what end, when the "solution" to your perceived problem is so well known.

Bit like asking whether you should put axle grease on your toast instead of butter.

If everybody doggedly persisted in thinking inside the box and no one dared to think outside it, nothing would be discovered, invented, innovated or improved, that's why.

 

[Deleted member 36384]

If everybody doggedly persisted in thinking inside the box and no one dared to think outside it, nothing would be discovered, invented, innovated or improved, that's why.

Innovators look inside the box first.

 

[VO5]

Innovators look inside the box first.

Yes, precisely, now read on.

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