Seastoke
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so we need to fit a swivel on the anchor as when we wind it in, it always upside down so who sells the best and strongest .cheers for replies SS
anchor swivel
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jimmy_the_builder
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Osculati banana works for me.
julians
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A kong swivel seems to be the go to swivel.no idea if these guys are the cheapest though:-
www.marinesuperstore.com/anchoring-...MIhsL9mbnr3gIVBrTtCh3bGQXLEAQYAiABEgIsb_D_BwE
www.marinesuperstore.com/anchoring-...MIhsL9mbnr3gIVBrTtCh3bGQXLEAQYAiABEgIsb_D_BwE
jrudge
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I have a banana one also.
I had a swivel one but it was not very reliable at turning the anchor but i suspect that the effectiveness of one or other will depend on the design of the anchor roller assembly.
On the s58 the banana must be bought in slowly or it will kick and jam. It has never bought it in upside down but has jammed sideways a few times when I have been too gentle at recovering it
I had a swivel one but it was not very reliable at turning the anchor but i suspect that the effectiveness of one or other will depend on the design of the anchor roller assembly.
On the s58 the banana must be bought in slowly or it will kick and jam. It has never bought it in upside down but has jammed sideways a few times when I have been too gentle at recovering it
Hurricane
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Here is a short clip showing Jimmy's suggestion - the banana.
We had a lot of success with our banana but I removed it when we upgraded to a Rocna anchor.
Now I just use a simple shackle - no swivel.
Sometimes it comes up upside down but if you are brave and continue winding the windlass until the anchor shaft runs over the pulley, it will turn itself anyway.
That said, we found the banana worked well with the old Delta anchor
We had a lot of success with our banana but I removed it when we upgraded to a Rocna anchor.
Now I just use a simple shackle - no swivel.
Sometimes it comes up upside down but if you are brave and continue winding the windlass until the anchor shaft runs over the pulley, it will turn itself anyway.
That said, we found the banana worked well with the old Delta anchor
MapisM
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+1, the thing indeed does its job.
Or, for those who don't mind spending a bit more, there's another version built by Douglas Marine.
On top of being better fabricated and rock solid, is also more elegant because it doesn't require any shackle.
MapisM
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How come, is that just because the Rocna weight distribution makes it self-righting, so to speak? If so, doesn't the anchor shaft put some strain on the pulley, while turning?
Besides, I guess that depending on which side the anchor decides to turn, it can leave you with a twisted chain between it and the windlass, if you don't have at least a swivel...
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Deleted User YDKXO
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I have used an Osculati Twist swivel in the past and its fine with a smallish anchor but I found the motion of righting the anchor as the Twist passes through the bow roller was a bit violent and with a bigger anchor I was concerned about damaging the bow roller. Now we just have a standard rotating swivel and if the anchor comes up the wrong way round we leave it dangling just below the waterline and go astern for a few metres. That going astern serves to rotate the anchor the right way round and then we can just lift it into the bow roller. Works every time at least with the Bruce, Delta and Rocna anchors we've had
MapisM
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I perfectly understand that, but this summer I learned (having pocket anchors in the previous boats, I didn't have such problem) how to eliminate that effect almost completely.
In fact, upon recovery, now I don't keep the winch working constantly, as per Hurricane video.
I just pull the anchor up to the point where the banana reaches the bow roller, and then stop the winch.
From that position, if the anchor is the other way round, a couple of short bursts of the winch make it self-right much more gently, before pulling it up completely.
It takes just a few seconds more, no big deal.
Though I guess it would be hard to control that from an AnCam!
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Yes but I have a SWMBO who has zero mechanical sensitivity and often have friends on board with the same affliction
The leave the anchor in the water technique is less risky IMHO
MapisM
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Fair point.
I'm not used to think about that because normally I take care of the anchor myself, instructing swmbo at the helm about how to move the boat around.
But I accept that I'm rather the exception than the norm, in this respect!
I'm not used to think about that because normally I take care of the anchor myself, instructing swmbo at the helm about how to move the boat around.
But I accept that I'm rather the exception than the norm, in this respect!
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Deleted User YDKXO
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To be fair my SWMBO is an excellent crew and we generally work very well together but she operates the anchor winch like she drives her car. Its either on or off
MapisM
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LOL, I hope (for her own health!) that S doesn't drive a Rimac… 
simonfraser
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'Sometimes it comes up upside down but if you are brave and continue winding the windlass until the anchor shaft runs over the pulley, it will turn itself anyway'
+1 same on my roller. i have removed my swivel due to weeping rust on the SS connector shaft after only one years use.
now have one larger shackle through the hole in the anchor shaft and a smaller one the other way round to connect to the chain.
the SS part on the bow roller is def man enough, i might wear the 'plastic' rollers out with the anchor shaft rotating on top of it, that's easy to fix and monitor.
+1 same on my roller. i have removed my swivel due to weeping rust on the SS connector shaft after only one years use.
now have one larger shackle through the hole in the anchor shaft and a smaller one the other way round to connect to the chain.
the SS part on the bow roller is def man enough, i might wear the 'plastic' rollers out with the anchor shaft rotating on top of it, that's easy to fix and monitor.
Hurricane
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To be fair my SWMBO is an excellent crew and we generally work very well together but she operates the anchor winch like she drives her car. Its either on or off
Difficult then
I was going to suggest modifying your technique with the Rocna
IIRC you have the same weight Rocna as us.
The weighting on the Rocna plus a small amount of laterall pull over the roller is enough to spin it the correct way round even without a swivel.
The balance is such that there is a huge rotation effect to get it the correct way round.
But is is a bit scary and it is worth stopping when the end of the anchor shaft is just over the roller with the anchor sticking out forward a few degrees.
So, blindly just winding it in might cause all kinds of problems.
We always recover the anchor using the controls on the bow - never from the FB or main helm.
MapisM
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+1 for good, and glad to hear that I'm not the only one with such habit.
Operating the winch without checking first hand what happens (also under the water) just wouldn't make me comfortable.
But... Am I wrong in remembering that you joined the AnCam bandwagon some time ago?
I maintain that imho it's not worth having one in general, but if you use the bow control it's bound to be 100% ornamental...
Hurricane
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Yep - I fitted it when we were in CF.But... Am I wrong in remembering that you joined the AnCam bandwagon some time ago?
I maintain that imho it's not worth having one in general, but if you use the bow control it's bound to be 100% ornamental...
It is only a cheap IP camera which feeds into the ships LAN/PC.
But it actually quite useful to me on the FB.
Whoever recovers the anchor from the foredeck seems to forget to comment on the anchor recovery progress.
So it is good to know when the anchor breaks the surface.
Also sometimes when we pull up a load of mud, SWMBO often washes it by dunking it up and down a few times so, yet again, it is goot do see from the FB what she is actually doing.
And sometimes, I can help with washing it by moving the boat with the anchor just below the surface - similar to Deleted User's concept above but with the aim of washing the anchor.
Ancam helps with all this stuff.
MapisM
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Aha, fairenuff.
I keep forgetting that I'm probably alone in leaving the helm to swmbo while anchoring, and go to the bow myself, giving her instructions on how to maneuver.
We even agreed some hand signals which work well with no need to shout, btw.
As a result, I can stay at the bow, operate the winch, and control the throttles remotely by just waving one hand. Who needs those Yacht Controller thingies...?
I keep forgetting that I'm probably alone in leaving the helm to swmbo while anchoring, and go to the bow myself, giving her instructions on how to maneuver.
We even agreed some hand signals which work well with no need to shout, btw.
As a result, I can stay at the bow, operate the winch, and control the throttles remotely by just waving one hand. Who needs those Yacht Controller thingies...?
Hurricane
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Aha, fairenuff.
I keep forgetting that I'm probably alone in leaving the helm to swmbo while anchoring, and go to the bow myself, giving her instructions on how to maneuver.
We even agreed some hand signals which work well with no need to shout, btw.
As a result, I can stay at the bow, operate the winch, and control the throttles remotely by just waving one hand. Who needs those Yacht Controller thingies...?
I would have to be VERY careful when waving hand signals at my SWMBO - it could turn out to be a painful mistake.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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I was going to say. My SWMBO has downed tools during the mooring or anchoring process more than once if I have uttered a word out of place or made a hand gesture or even adopted a facial expression she doesnt like. I have learned my lesson the hard way on this. It is always my fault even when it isnt
Maybe we should have married Italian women, eh?