Advice Sought Goole to South Ferriby

[SteveW1]

Can anyone give me any advice / recomendations on the following.

I intend to take my boat (24ft sail boat with a 1.4m draft) from Goole to South ferriby.

I am finding it very difficult to gain information about the stretch on the ouse from Goole to the humber at Burton Stather.

I have obtained an ABP chart of the upper reach's of the Humber, but it does not cover the leg to Goole.

As my boat is a fin keeler, I am worried about depths, and also the fierce tide speeds in that neck of the woods.

My boat is powered by a Mercury 9.9 outboard and will only just stem the tides at 6 to 7 kn as can be expected on the spring tides at Goole.

The only obvious time to make the trip would be Neaps, but even ABP and the Ocean Lock keeper seem unable or unwilling to give any advice on tide/current speeds etc on the Goole to Burton Stather leg.

Any advice from the more experienced will be gratefully recieved.

Cheers
Steve

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[uforea]

You may be causing a bit of confusion here as Burton Stather is on the Trent. I think you must mean Blacktoft which is at the bottom of the Ouse at the junction of the Trent when it then becomes the Humber. When you leave Goole it will have to be at High Water or just before because of the strength of the tides in this area. The run from Goole to the Apex light house is quite straight forward and you could follow a small coaster if you are not sure of the channel. But be careful as they sometimes run aground. The channels in the upper Humber change on a weekly basis almost so you need to keep a close eye on the depth all the time.You might have more problems crossing from the main ship channel to the route down to Ferriby which is on the South side of the river especially as by the time you get down that far the tide will be well gone and it would be unwise to venture out of the marked channel without local knowledge. You can PM me if you like and I will try to give you more detailed info.

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[paulrossall]

I have a bilge keel yacht drawing 1M and took it down the Trent to South Ferriby in Sept 2001 and I was aware of the pottential difficulties but with careful planning the trip can be done safely provided you have reasonable experience and a competant crew. I had 4 on board, including myself, and two of the others were very experienced sailors, one a Yatchmaster instructor. As we all live on the Trent we are used to fast moving rivers.
The Trent Boating Association produce 3 charts series which are diagrams with detailed navigational notes for (1) the Non-Tidal Trent, (2) the Tidal Trent and (3) The Yorkshire Ouse (tidal and non-tidal stretches).
You should buy (3) which costs about £6 and should be available at any of the good chandleries on the Ouse, or any of the marinas there. This will cover you down to Blacklort Jetty.
You might have bought your Upper Humber chart too early as notices are issued every week changing the bouys. It is vital you get the latest updated information before you depart.
We arrived at Trent Falls around low water (maybee 1 hour before) and then proceeded to South Ferriby and waited outside the lock until the lock keeper told us we had enough water to get in. The lockeeper there is very helpful and is part of the Department of the Enviroment. He gave me some jip because I did not have a Boat safety scheme certificate and I had to get hold of his boss who agreed I did not need one for a short stay. Once I got in I talked to the boatyard which I think is called Clapsons. It is cheaper to talk to Mr Clapson (if that is his name) as he will allow you to moor for a reasonable fee (on the basis he is going to do some work on your boat which he isnt) and he will stick a temporary sign on your boat to that effect which means you dont have to pay a locking in and out fee and dont have to buy a short term licence from the enviroment dept (who you pay for anyway so it saves you paying twice).
The pub there does good food and the beer is kept well.
I would never do a journey going downstream around high water because if you do touch you are stuck. I would always do it 1 or 2 hours before low water so if you get stuck you will not go down much and it wont be long before you go up again. I would do it on neaps rather than springs out of choice.
Properly planned with your shallow draft you should not have a problem. Sent you a PM.Good Luck Paul.

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