Access to Marinas during Covid 19 restrictions

[Graham376]

Well I have caught up with Hancock on QT and a very clear statement that the key is self distancing from other people (as we all knew) so fine to drive and walk and presumably fine to drive and board AS LONG AS YOU CAN SELF DISTANCE. So that seems to me pretty clear and hopefully the end of silly notes asking people why they have parked a car in THEIR village - - - - PS you are welcome to my village ?

Not according to published gov guidelines.

You may travel for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home

We advise you to stay local and use open spaces near to your home where possible – do not travel unnecessarily.

 

[ip485]

All superseded, very clear statement from the Minister for Health if you care to listen, he has clarrified the guidelines if you like,, which were always just that anyway - guidelines. Its good enough for me anyway.

 

[JumbleDuck]

My issue is the next bit of madness - there was a hint they are looking at us all carrying health passports - those who have tested positive and those not. Wow - just wow. That working should be interesting.

Something like that may well be a good idea as more and more of us catch it, recover and have no need any more to stay at home.Tricky to see how it can be implemented, though. Maybe in due course there will be walk-in testing stations; test positive for antibodies and you get a card with your picture on it (no need to have identity information) which you can show Mr Plod if asked why you're out.

 

[Old Harry]

Next step Identity cards with your bio metrics , medical status , criminal record , name and address and the police and council with scanners

The Continental type would suffice & for little cost, not that proposed by Bliar

 

[Lightwave395]

No misunderstanding or 'presuming' here, gates locked:

 

[bdh198]

"I can’t help but feel this debate will get as divisive as Brexit:

Stay At Home (Remainers) Vs Take Back Control / Vote Leave My Home (Brexiteers)"

It would seem not, because at least this is less than emotive, and more about the science, and scientist who are more likely to (eventually) get a grasp on how the science and how people's behaviour work.

That’ very true. Everyone now is trying to rely on ‘experts’ to justify their actions!

 

[AntarcticPilot]

O.K so I'll change that to - no reported local cases so far

I'm pretty certain I've had it - all the right symptoms, including altered sense of taste and smell. But I had it fairly mildly, and was never even close to needing hospital treatment, so I haven't been tested, and don't appear in any official statistics. From what I read, my case reflects the vast majority of cases. There are probably orders of magnitude more cases than official statistics report, the vast majority of which simply self-isolate and suffer the disease fairly mildly. Remember that confirmed, serious cases are the extreme end of the distribution curve - the vast majority simply suffer a mild flu-like illness.
But the potential for a much more serious illness in the elderly or chronically ill is very great, hence the restrictions on our activities.

 

[olam]

Trades are still working at our marina.
Odd that i can work on someone else's boat but not allowed near mine.

 

[ryanroberts]

I'm pretty certain I've had it - all the right symptoms, including altered sense of taste and smell. But I had it fairly mildly, and was never even close to needing hospital treatment, so I haven't been tested, and don't appear in any official statistics. From what I read, my case reflects the vast majority of cases.

Same, and a couple of my friends. Mass testing and some sort of bio passport is probably the only quick way out of this. The resulting incentive of being allowed out / to work post infection might be an issue however. Have to assume that plenty will take deliberate infection over forced confinement and inability to earn.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

Same, and a couple of my friends. Mass testing and some sort of bio passport is probably the only quick way out of this. The resulting incentive of being allowed out / to work post infection might be an issue however. Have to assume that plenty will take deliberate infection over forced confinement and inability to earn.

Only problem is lack of capacity for mass testing. Also, we think my wife had it, but with very mild symptoms indeed; if I hadn't had much worse symptoms, we might not have recognised hers.

There's also the issue that we don't know how much (if any) immunity having had it gives. The common cold is caused by a related virus, and we all know that having had a cold doesn't confer much, if any, immunity to future colds.

 

[FlyingGoose]

Only problem is lack of capacity for mass testing. Also, we think my wife had it, but with very mild symptoms indeed; if I hadn't had much worse symptoms, we might not have recognised hers.

There's also the issue that we don't know how much (if any) immunity having had it gives. The common cold is caused by a related virus, and we all know that having had a cold doesn't confer much, if any, immunity to future colds.

No your are right about the cold, which mutates constantly and varying strains are constantly out there , that is why it is impossible to get a cure , by the time you have identified the genetic make up and brought a vaccine out for the cold it has mutated or another strain has evolved ,

 

[ip485]

Something like that may well be a good idea as more and more of us catch it, recover and have no need any more to stay at home.Tricky to see how it can be implemented, though. Maybe in due course there will be walk-in testing stations; test positive for antibodies and you get a card with your picture on it (no need to have identity information) which you can show Mr Plod if asked why you're out.

JumbleDuck - it is a good idea in theory, I agree with you. It is the practical application.

Maybe it is the cynic in me, but if it were to end up with only passported people being "allowed out" I can really see a lot of young people saying sod this I will go and mix with someone who has had it! Maybe I am too cynical. As ever it is the detail which will be very important if it doesnt just ended up with unreasonably restricting liability without actually contributing to the purpse which we all know and accept is vital.

 

[ryanroberts]

Only problem is lack of capacity for mass testing.

I believe that is being worked on

 

[Blue Sunray]

A woman has been fined for breaching coronavirus restrictions after she refused to tell police who she was and why she was at a railway station.

Marie Dinou, 41, from York, was arrested at Newcastle Central Station at 08:00 GMT on Saturday.

North Tyneside Magistrates' Court imposed a £660 fine under the Coronavirus Act 2020 on Monday.

Dinou, who did not enter a plea, was also ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £66 and costs of £85.

It would apper that the police have changed their mind.

Woman 'wrongly charged under new coronavirus law'

 

[JumbleDuck]

It would apper that the police have changed their mind.

Woman 'wrongly charged under new coronavirus law'

Oops. Doesn't say much for the magistrates or their clerk either.

 

[GTom]

A few days old now but my marina sent me this link today along with a very polite request not to come down to the boat and reassurance that they are patrolling regularly.
Ministry of Defence police stop sailors on the water in Portsmouth Harbour amid Covid-19 lockdown

"Sitting on a boat is not exercise. " - LoL...

 

[steveeasy]

Trades are still working at our marina.
Odd that i can work on someone else's boat but not allowed near mine.

Although im not too interested about the matter I wonder if that's correct. A Marina is a leisure type business. These were told to close a couple of weeks ago. They should be closed, im not sure a tradesman should be working on a premises ordered to close. or If an owner can instruct a tradesperson to carry out work in a premises ordered to close.
A boatyard is a different species. These were not told to close. they can continue with social distancing practices in place.

I believe a marina will receive a grant for closing. A boatyard will not. This is just my pinion, I might be wrong, but I might be right.

Steveeasy

 

[olam]

It is the Boatyard at the marina which is still open to trades,not sure about the marina.

 

[Tradewinds]

Covid-19 - Guidance for Marina Operators - IBB Solicitors

 

[Blue Sunray]

NTM just out from APB Southampton. Whilst I agree with their sentiments, making incorrect statements does them no favours

"however the Government has advised that marinas should be closed. "

so far as I have seen the Government had made no such advice, indeed noting that have said that I've seen has mentioned marinas and I'd have though at least someone would have spotted it if they had and mentioned it on one of the numerous threads on the subject.

http://www.southamptonvts.co.uk/admin/content/files/NTMs/2020 No 15 (T) COVID 19 - Recreational Boating.pdf