A question for the raggies

[Seastoke]

Thank you to all who gave me an idea to how you see the situation.

 

[Alex_Blackwood]

What does "in line" mean? The rules of the road are pretty clear, especially for power vessels. I would expect you to follow them, albeit I would be cautious in case you've never heard of them.

I Think he means "In line astern" as opposed to "In line abreast" but who knows? I think Slow down would be my first expectation. As overtaking craft he has to give way.
I should have read the whole thread!

 

[BruceK]

@seastoke Roy - you know perfectly well what the answers to your questions are - or you should know.
There again, maybe not - @BruceK is Roy on one of his usual wind ups, or is he genuinely ignorant?
Why do you have this obsessive desire to try to wind up other people who enjoy boating with posts like your OP in this thread?
You appear to have a pathological dislike (I won't say hatred) of 'raggies' - why? What has caused this?
If you think you are being funny by posting stuff like this - you are not.

oi dont drag me into this. For one neither of us have a pathological hatred of yotties. It's true we see them as prey items in true nautical piratical terms but at the end of the day we share anchorage and a BBQ with them and call them friend. A bit of rivalry and joshing is simply our way.

HOWEVER! I understand fully where Roy is coming from. We have at least a couple of long but fairly narrow channels that do not have speed restrictions on them. Long in as much as combined they would add as much as 2 hours on an otherwise 1.5 hour journey if travelled at displacement speed. Can I tell you what is really really irritating? Here you are travelling along breeze in the hair and come across a gaggle of yotties. You are a conscientious and polite mobo so you slow down to your displacement speed of 6-7 knts. But the gaggle of yotties are much more efficient at those speeds and can now match your 6-7 knts especially when moto sailing so you are now stuck behind them unable to pass unless you push up a few knots and make a really big splash compared to your original at 20 knts.

WHY cant the yottie reciprocate the goodwill and slow to 5 knts allowing you to pass and wave to each other in bonhomie and brotherhood? No, NEVER will the yottie EVER consider that.
I have learnt as a result that you can never win passing a yottie, you are always going to get the finger and as such I have become immune to it and wave back cheerily in brotherhood and bonhomie.

 

[johnalison]

but I'm never convinced that the wash is as small as MoBo's think when they're on the plane either.

I wish I had been given a quid for every time I have read the "I don't make any wash when I am planing" argument. What they mean is that they haven't bothered to look behind them to see what is happening to sailing boats, now too far away for them to care about.

 

[dunedin]

I wish I had been given a quid for every time I have read the "I don't make any wash when I am planing" argument. What they mean is that they haven't bothered to look behind them to see what is happening to sailing boats, now too far away for them to care about.

Sad but so true in my experience. They don’t watch the chaos 1/4 mile behind

 

[grumpy_o_g]

Yes , but who is anyone to dictate to another as to what that leisure should be .

Not me, for sure. That's why I've mentioned the time factor. There is, however a time and place for some activities and a trade off between one man's leisure activity and the discomfort it causes to others. That's really what this question is - is the negative effect of my action as perceived by others enough to outweigh the positives as perceived by me. Couples living together know full well that a) this question cannot be answered correctly and also that b) the consequences of getting it wrong can be dire.

 

[cherod]

Not me, for sure. That's why I've mentioned the time factor. There is, however a time and place for some activities and a trade off between one man's leisure activity and the discomfort it causes to others. That's really what this question is - is the negative effect of my action as perceived by others enough to outweigh the positives as perceived by me. Couples living together know full well that a) this question cannot be answered correctly and also that b) the consequences of getting it wrong can be dire.

Yes of course , but if someone is wanting to pass ( as on the highway / cycle path / climbing a munro etc ) then the assumption has to be that they have a reason , be it for leisure / enjoyment or something more important , it not for you or anyone to question their purpose but to facilitate that other person , with all saftey and inconvenience to others considered .

 

[thinwater]

oi dont drag me into this. For one neither of us have a pathological hatred of yotties. It's true we see them as prey items in true nautical piratical terms but at the end of the day we share anchorage and a BBQ with them and call them friend. A bit of rivalry and joshing is simply our way.

HOWEVER! I understand fully where Roy is coming from. We have at least a couple of long but fairly narrow channels that do not have speed restrictions on them. Long in as much as combined they would add as much as 2 hours on an otherwise 1.5 hour journey if travelled at displacement speed. Can I tell you what is really really irritating? Here you are travelling along breeze in the hair and come across a gaggle of yotties. You are a conscientious and polite mobo so you slow down to your displacement speed of 6-7 knts. But the gaggle of yotties are much more efficient at those speeds and can now match your 6-7 knts especially when moto sailing so you are now stuck behind them unable to pass unless you push up a few knots and make a really big splash compared to your original at 20 knts.

WHY cant the yottie reciprocate the goodwill and slow to 5 knts allowing you to pass and wave to each other in bonhomie and brotherhood? No, NEVER will the yottie EVER consider that.
I have learnt as a result that you can never win passing a yottie, you are always going to get the finger and as such I have become immune to it and wave back cheerily in brotherhood and bonhomie.

A well-reasoned response. Slowing to allow a quick pass can be the right answer on the highway as well.

The equivalant in the US is the Intercoastal Waterway. Some areas demand slow transit, but in others allowing a quick pass is more reasonable.

 

[grumpy_o_g]

Yes of course , but if someone is wanting to pass ( as on the highway / cycle path / climbing a munro etc ) then the assumption has to be that they have a reason , be it for leisure / enjoyment or something more important , it not for you or anyone to question their purpose but to facilitate that other person , with all saftey and inconvenience to others considered .

It is for me or anyone to question as much as they want to. That's called free speech - If I can't question something when the poster explicitly asks us to why would you feel it acceptable you to question what I can and can't say in my response? That's kind of how free speech works - . Not much point in having a forum otherwise