A Glaze.

Kingfisher 3 said:
Anybody use it? I know it's expensive but I believe it's the best on the market and, if applied properly, lasts for a very long time. Am I right in thinking it's an extra coat applied after polishing and waxing or have I got that wrong?
If anyone does use it ... would you recommend it?
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Apologies for the late posting in answer to your request but better late than never.

Please note guys that what I write is my experience on my boat in the Med. I have no experience on using A Glaze in the UK nor wish to debate which system is most effective.

My boat is a Sunseeker Manhattan 60 which I purchased new in the UK in 2009.
Upon collection and handover in Poole in April 2009 it was A Glazed hull and topsides with the resin after careful preparation. The boat was then taken by sea to Mallorca late April 09.

It has lived in Mallorca for the last six years being afloat exposed to the elements during this period.

I use Steve Hookings and his team to carry out all maintenance and guardianage, (steve@yachtguardianage.com) who polish/prepare and A Glaze the boat every Oct/Nov for the winter and again in the following March when the anti fouling and servicing is carried out.

The biggest threat to boats in the Med is obviously the intense heat and UV and the finish on new boats will fade and go very chalky unless they are maintained on a continuous basis.

My boat has only been A Glazed and looks today as good the day it left the factory.

Many people, including professional skippers, think the boat is new and are always surprised.

The product has always been applied by professional A Glaze approved cleaners and I have never had to carry out any work myself.

Do I recommend A Glaze as a product and Steve Hookings and his team, Yes Yes Yes witout reservation.

Can I recommend it for the UK, sorry no experience.

What Marine Reflections posted was in my opinion not only factual but also relevant to the UK and he gives his professional advice without b**l s**t and is someone I am always ready to listen to.

If I can help any further feel free to ask.

Doug
 
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Thanks Doug! Kind words.

I've just got wind from Dulon that product samples are winging their way here from the Netherlands.

I'm going to contact Clive from A-Glaze and see if we can't have a 'head to head' between them both, perhaps throw in some other well known protection products in the test also. Will start new thread.

Thinking Doug has just reassured me that correct prep and technique trump product every time, but would be interesting to see how each of these products perform here in the UK side by side.

Any suggestions for others that should be included in a test?

Tony
 
Hi Tony,

I would find any such test or exercise very interesting but do get annoyed when some people on the forum get agitated when others don't agree with them, hence my comment that I do not want to debate the subject.

I'm 71 years old now and have to ensure I keep calm and composed as I have a mild heart condition so debates are for looking at and not getting involved in.

Without doubt i'm sure that any tests you carry out will be fair and honest and look forward to reading the results.

If you are ever in Mallorca please come and see the boat and how A Glaze works in the Med sun.

Doug
 
Been using A Glaze on this boat since she was new.
Easy to apply - and yes - we do the whole boat each year.
Actually, we usually put too much on so to begin with the boat looks a little smeary.
But after a week or so she looks great.
We then only wash with shampoo (using the A Glaze shampoo as well - not expensive) and the shine lasts the season.

It is end of season now so she is a little dull.

Definitely A Glaze next year as well.
That would make it 8 seasons of A Glaze
 
Doug, that would be a real treat.
When I'm over that way I will certainly take you up on that, although to anyone other than me, visiting a Sunseeker Manhattan 60 and looking at the surface protection would be like meeting Jenny Frost and admiring her sun tan lotion :)

I take your point about the dangers of debates, certainly on things that have so many variables such as products, their required prep and application. What works for some, might not for others until they get past a certain learning curve, but they will rarely persist and their opinion of that product is fixed in their mind and spread, regardless of the actual ability of the product / technique.

Results can't be measured with personal opinion, but we can follow guys who have found a decent combination of skill and product that works well for them in the environment they are in.
On this one thread alone we have a conflict of product experiences, albeit possibly down to hired professionals.
Perhaps worth mentioning though is that one man's perfection is another's 'almost there'.

I will keep things factual, but yes most of all fair, honest and transparent.
Results will be visual and impartial and updated as the months go by and as the failures start becoming noticeable.

This would happen faster in the med than here in the UK, but it should give us some comparison.

Allan,
Yes, I remember you talking about Nanopro a while ago. Did you get to try any out?
I've not used or got close up with them at all, so would be interesting to see how they compete.
I will contact them and see if they are willing to offer any up for forum testing.

Tony
 
I hope you can arrange the comparisons Tony, your views would be of interest to many of us. Your advice over many discussions has been balanced and eminently knowledgeable, consequently manufacturers/distributors should rest assured products would be tested in a fair and equitable way.

If I were Hugo I would be in contact with you it would make a great feature. He might even give some beer money for your troubles :)
 
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Marine Reflections said:
nAllan,
Yes, I remember you talking about Nanopro a while ago. Did you get to try any out?
I've not used or got close up with them at all, so would be interesting to see how they compete.
I will contact them and see if they are willing to offer any up for forum testing.

Tony
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Hi Tony,

No, I haven't tried any of the Nanopro products out, so would be interested if you can get some samples for a comparison test.

Cheers, Allam
 
Marine Reflections said:

I've just got wind from Dulon that product samples are winging their way here from the Netherlands.

I'm going to contact Clive from A-Glaze and see if we can't have a 'head to head' between them both, perhaps throw in some other well known protection products in the test also. Will start new thread.

Thinking Doug has just reassured me that correct prep and technique trump product every time, but would be interesting to see how each of these products perform here in the UK side by side.

Any suggestions for others that should be included in a test?

Tony
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It would be interesting to include the 3M ultra paste wax, as I would guess this is the most widely used product in the marine market? Alternatively, or as well, lots of people seem to get good results with the Silveryak, so would be good to include that as well. I agree that it would make an interesting magazine article.
 
Nick_H said:
It would be interesting to include the 3M ultra paste wax, as I would guess this is the most widely used product in the marine market? Alternatively, or as well, lots of people seem to get good results with the Silveryak, so would be good to include that as well. I agree that it would make an interesting magazine article.
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Having spent a bit too much time talking to Dulon, it seems this (and doubtless other products) require you to use their range exclusively, so I think you would have to run an A glaze,a Dulon, and then some sort of 3M product test.. I don't think 3M paste is necessarily going to work as the wax on top of Dulon if you see my point.
Dulon is a three to four product finish...
 
gjgm said:
Having spent a bit too much time talking to Dulon, it seems this (and doubtless other products) require you to use their range exclusively, so I think you would have to run an A glaze,a Dulon, and then some sort of 3M product test.. I don't think 3M paste is necessarily going to work as the wax on top of Dulon if you see my point.
Dulon is a three to four product finish...
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Yes, you'd have to prepare each sample using the prescribed system. Provided the gel coat is in reasonably good condition to start with, then for A glaze this is the "Prep" followed by the "Glaze". For Dulon it is the "Polypolish" followed by the 2-stage sealer. For 3M paste wax it would be a suitable 3M polish, followed by the paste wax. I assume this is what Tony is planning to do?

Actually, I strongly suspect that the A Glaze Prep, and the Dulon Polypolish, are just light polishing compounds and you'd get the same results with any other light grade polish prior to the sealer, but maybe I'm wrong and they do have some special properties that make the sealer more effective.
 
I started this one! ......... decided to get A Glaze done professionally in the Spring if I can find someone down here who can do it ... in the meantime I've bought a tin of 3M Paste as recommended by 'Marine Reflections' and tested it on the boat at the weekend with very pleasing results. I've only done a few feet of white around the deck and roof having polished it with Meguiars first which was the only thing I had to hand, I reckoned it would clean up the surface ok, which it did ... no idea if this is the correct procedure ... as I always say - if all else fails, read the instructions! It will be interesting to see how long it lasts nice and shiny. I won't be using the boat as much in the winter but will be hosing off the salt each time we get back. Unfortunately the colour strip on the topsides is a rather nasty cowshit brown which has faded already ... the boat is only 3 years old so I recommend white topsides to anyone. It was professionally polished, supposedly, before I picked it up last week but it doesn't look much better to me and I don't imagine it was waxed. I couldn't, and still can't, see round the bow where it was worst .. it was tied alongside a catamaran at the dealer's and on my end pontoon in the marina I can't see the bad bit ... I'll have to pump up the dinghy and have a look .... and probably wax it at the same time! Anyway .... I'm happy to read about experiences of others, even if everyone disagrees with everyone else!
 
Ok, so the first of the contenders arrived this morning, a parcel from Dulon international.

A-Glaze have agreed to be in on it and will be sending some samples out.

Contacted NanoPro chemicals and 3M marine, waiting to hear back from them and will e-mail the manufacturers of Sileryak in a moment.

Please keep the suggestions flowing as to what products you would like to see in the test. I'm thinking around ten products in total and will list them when they are all in.

Anything on here is the property of Time inc, so they are perfectly entitled to use it as they see fit, but for now this is for the forum.

Completely agree that each product will have it's own prep and be washed using the recommended product for maintenance.

The surface they will be going on will be flawless. Asserted each section will be prepped in accordance with it's matching product and washed monthly as agitation free as possible with their own branded products.

Just about to start a new thread so the title isn't bias, will pop up link in a moment.
 
pks1702 said:
I hope you can arrange the comparisons Tony, your views would be of interest to many of us. Your advice over many discussions has been balanced and eminently knowledgeable, consequently manufacturers/distributors should rest assured products would be tested in a fair and equitable way.

If I were Hugo I would be in contact with you it would make a great feature. He might even give some beer money for your troubles :)
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Thank you!



Started a new thread on the test
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?443397-Protection-product-test&p=5494535#post5494535
 
I think this going to be of great interest to many who frequent here !

Tony, if you are looking for a mature, realistic test boat I know just where there might be one !!

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