4 Bavs Aground

[tome]

Saw 4 Bavs on low loaders pulled over at Langstone yesterday 4.30pm en route Opal Hayling. Drivers were obviously taking a breather and giving way to impending rush hour traffic.

Was this an example of good passage planning?

 

[Twister_Ken]

\'s just what I said

Caravans!

 

[Johnjo]

Do I take it that from comment ,
That you don't like Bav's Ken?
Bens have a simular effect on myself.
mike

 

[Chris_Robb]

Re: \'s just what I said

Hope Nicho is not watching!

 

[nicho]

Re: \'s just what I said

I am!! - you are all so awful to me...sob!.........one of those could be mine.....!

 

[zefender]

Re: \'s just what I said

It's allright Nicho, Ken's just having another of his Canute moments - it'll pass - like wind.

 

[Twister_Ken]

Think of it this way lads.

That's four more boats helping raise the price of berths/moorings.

That's four more boats competing with you for the last place in Yarmouth.

That's four more people trying to buy a round in the Folly.

That's four more boats looking for somewhere to anchor at East Head, or Osborne Bay or Studland.

That's four more boats to steer around.

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Semi-seriously, shouldn't there be a law that says that for every new boat commissioned in the South of England either:

The sales agent/builder has to provide an extra parking place afloat, or

Another boat has to be taken out of commission and broken up, or

Another boat has to be relocated to somewhere north of a line between Falmouth and Aldeburgh - or sent to France.

 

[nicho]

Re: Think of it this way lads.

I'd like to volunteer to be the boat that's sent to France (South Coast of) please Sir!

 

[Ohdrat]

Re: \'s just what I said

Ahhh but Caravans NEVER pull over they just crawl along at 40mph rush hour or not! >(

 

[Rob_Webb]

Re: Think of it this way lads.

Three-quarters seriously:

Rather than worry about the growth of boats wouldn't this sentiment be more productively spent trying to apply this rule to cars? After all, until every family has a boat on the water then I feel no right to complain about every new arrival - unless you wish to further promote a climate of exclusivity - and I think that such a 'preventative' approach is therefore selfish towards newcomers to sailing. But with the proliferation of cars I feel far more strongly - especially when it leads to log-jams that slow my progress down to my boat on a Friday evening.

 

[tcm]

Hmm, what about...

The new boat industry is important, and provide jobs. Superficially, and especially since new regulations, new boats are built to recognised standards. So, perhaps a "thinning out" of boats would start with an MOT at 10 years old.

 

[JeremyF]

Re: Hmm, what about...

Excellent idea, tcm.
There are too many poorly-made early GRP boats around. Their owners confuse thick GRP with high-quality design and manufacture. They deny the last 15 years of progress which have seen substantial improvements both in the way boats are designed structurally, and manufactured.

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[jimi]

Re: Hmm, what about...

Absolutely, many of the boats with osmosis are the "brick shithouses" where more was confused with stronger & better. Production techniques and product knowledge have advanced somewhat over the last 20 years.

I am working on a version of the London Eye which will get round the berth shortage problem as we speak, it will also remove the need for anti fouling .. what do you think?

Jim

 

[JeremyF]

Re: Hmm, what about...

Brilliant Jim. Sign me up. Maybe you can get some lottery funding, and replace the monument planned for Portsmouth harbour.

Rather than charging by LOA, I think you should charge by displacement, with a 50% uplift for long keelers, because they are going to be difficult to attach to the wheel.

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[jonlaw]

Re: \'s just what I said

I feel so sorry for you lot, I sail in and around Lough Swilly, Donegal, about 15 miles long, we could cruise for a week and anchor in a different spot every night -------alone-----
Ken, I noticed that you may be coming our way next season (Carlingford), sail a day further to the Swilly, our regatta is first weekend in August, by the tone of your 'posts' I know you would love it.

 

[tome]

Thought this thread might go awry...

Yarmouth Saturday night we counted in the (mostly) Bavs arriving until we gave up and legged it to the Wheatsheaf ahead of the rush for grub. Following morning one of my crew told me he'd nodded off counting Bavs in his head.

By my reckoning they're fine boats for their purpose and a mate has just sailed his new 34 back from Norway in lively conditions so they can't be that bad. I'm with Ken on personal choice (mine's a Holman & Pye design also) but one mans meat etc.

Wish the Solent was like it was 25 years ago but it isn't and good luck to all the newcomers - they still shoehorn me into Yarmouth on a Saturday night so can't really complain.

With such an explosion in boats, how come we don't have any decent TV programmes about sailing/boating? There must be some media darlings out there who can explain this to me.

Tom

 

[nicho]

Re: Hmm, what about...

Old Volvos were built the same way - solid old tanks. Problem was they had little in the way of energy absorbing crumple zones to cushion any collision - far more likely to be killed in one of those than one of the modern "flimsy" cars!.

The London Wheel idea is a good one. There are several car parks built on the same principle, I've seen them in Germany. Good, that is until the mechanism fails at 6pm on a Friday night and your car cannot be recovered until Monday am when the engineers responsible are again available!!

 

[nicho]

Re: Hmm, what about...

But Jeremy, is 50% going to be enough to cover the huge amount of energy needed to lift the these heavy old tubs to the top, and the additional wear and tear on the brakes stopping them careering out of control down the other side? Why should we have to subsidise this additional expense? It's a bit like splitting the bill between a group in a restaurant - there's always one that orders the most expensive items on the menu, and has a couple more large brandies than anyone else! Sorry guys, I think they should be banned from this new boat park venture altogether.....

 

[jimi]

Re: Hmm, what about...

Strooth, I think you're right, these old boats fall apart as soon as they start drying out! However by excluding them we'll only be excluding a niche (not nicho!) market.
I'm also considering making this thing wind driven so that not only will it be self powered with the advantage that you'll only be able to use the boat when there actually is some wind thus saving the frustration of motoring about and associating with the lesser life form known as "Motor Boaters".
Another possible refinement is hooking the thing up to a turbine generator thus subsidising the berths.

Thoughts?

Jim

 

[Johnjo]

What with all the hot air that's in circulation at present.
Bound to meet a cold front,
Result, Storm.
Think I'll stay safe in port
mike