2 or 3 blade prop

doug748

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I got several quotes. 2 blade Gori is not the end of the world. But I am a bit concerned. I heard about a few instances of losing the propeller (in theory it could be blamed on poor installation). Also, the fact it is not always opening properly (read here in the forum), especially in reverse, is discouraging. On the plus side, I won't catch any pots when sailing I understand? I am a bit fixated on 3 blade, as it might give me bit of a pull agains heavy weather, but I presume above 25 knots (where I would prefer to be home anyway), even 3 blades won't help with my current engine.

So I guess, 3 blade prop would be help when going against wind 15-22 knots, below and above doesn't make much difference. I might have lower fuel consumptions, but with the such a small engine, we are talking pennies.


I think my 'fear' against maneuvering in the marina, and Bradwell in particular, is lack of practice. I was struggling last year, during busy summer weekends, but the fact was - it was my first time driving boat with inboard. I haven't hit anything, but it was lot of stress. This year I will go there and practice - ideally near fishing boats, as they would not mind if I touch them...
Before I had outboard in the well, which was much better for manoeuvers - the engine was much closer to the center.


All your choices have drawbacks and advantages. Clever props need maintenance, are expensive and sometime don't do what you want them to.

I think you are in danger of over thinking the project. If you enjoy a simple boat, keep your money and the two blade. However polish the thing so it comes up like a Boatswain's pipe.

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I exchanged a prop that looked similar to yours for a two bladed Bruntons Autoprop in 1998. At the time my Sadler 34 had a Bukh DV20, later changed for a Yanmar 3GM30F. It has been excellent, same thrust ahead and astern and plenty of power in adverse conditions. Minimal maintenance and nothing to go wrong.
 

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I think you are in danger of over thinking the project.
Overthinking is where I shine!
I will give it a thought. I am going to change my propeller anyway, as it has a lot of wear. Maybe I will settle for a simple 2 blades in the end....
 

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I would seriously consider taking your prop off, cleaning it to see if you can determine what it is, then keep an eye out on eBay for a suitable one. It’s how I bought mine. You need to be careful, check rotation direction, diameter, pitch, bore size, shaft taper (there are a couple of possibilities).

PS. It took about 6 months before the right one appeared, and I had to compromise slightly on pitch.
 
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I had a folding two blader on a BMC 1.5 giving a top speed of 4.5 knots. Changed to a three blade folder and the change was dramatic. Top speed 6 knots and massive bite astern. Transformed the boat!
Do you know how old was two blade? How big was boat?
 

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Do you know how old was two blade? How big was boat?
I think that a 3-blade would be overdoing it on a 25' boat, but if you enjoy sailing at all a change to a folding one would be well worthwhile. My 34' boat came with the choice of 2 or 3 blades and the agent advised 2 for what he thought was my kind of sailing. In the end, we sailed much further and did more motoring than we anticipated and a 3-bladed one would have served us better. That is not to say that the 2-blde is unsatisfactory. I can achieve a full 7 knots under power (when clean!) which is probably not much different from what I would get with three blades, but as I understand it my revs are up to 400 rpm more at higher speeds. Also, when push come to shove when battling a head sea I have no doubt that 3 blades would be better. I would say that unless you are proposing to regularly motor considerable distances you would probably be quite happy with 2 blades. If PCUK's boat was so transformed it only indicated that the original prop was not up to the job, which doesn't have to be the case. I would save some cash and spend it on Zubrowka.
 

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@johnalison thank you for your answer
not much different from what I would get with three blades, but as I understand it my revs are up to 400 rpm more at higher speeds. Also, when push come to shove when battling a head sea I have no doubt that 3 blades would be better
So the entire story is that I am preparing my boat for 4 weeks cruising down to Scillies, with occasional East Coast 3-4 days trips. The heavy or rather heavyish (up to 25 knots) wind motoring is my main argument regarding 3 bladed fixed prop - but I have doubts that I will get a lot of difference as I have a tiny, 9HP engine. Obviously, thats something that no one can help me with clear data and thats why I am asking so many question - to get as many examples as possible to make up my mind.
 

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@johnalison thank you for your answer

So the entire story is that I am preparing my boat for 4 weeks cruising down to Scillies, with occasional East Coast 3-4 days trips. The heavy or rather heavyish (up to 25 knots) wind motoring is my main argument regarding 3 bladed fixed prop - but I have doubts that I will get a lot of difference as I have a tiny, 9HP engine. Obviously, thats something that no one can help me with clear data and thats why I am asking so many question - to get as many examples as possible to make up my mind.
I’ve not sailed your Sadler but I had a 29 once and sailed in company with a 25 for many years when I had a Mystere with a 12hp petrol engine. The Sadler with its 10 hp Petter motored much better than us. As far as I remember we generally motored at 4.7 knots while they were more like 5. I think that for the size of boat you are not going to get a great difference whatever prop you have and are not going to be able to punch into a F5 in open seas. I think a folding prop to get the best of your already excellent sailing performance is well worthwhile. Your 9hp is adequate, and I think that whatever prop you have you will be limited to sailing, motor-sailing, or motoring in good weather. Indeed, it is the weather and not your prop that decides whether you get to the Scillies, which I very much hope you do because they are beautiful.
 
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