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Not quite - the target was three miles away so not much effect on wind and tide on a mobo, see? Whereas 100 miles away is more differenter.

Incidentally, it wd be fine to get prepared for the test. Frinstance, those tidal sream charts could easily be photocopied and then set up for the day of the test wiith the time where each is applicable.

Completely separate is the safety briefing. You have to be able to do a safety briefing, which is fine - but the exmainer might cut in and say that's all fine thanks. Now what? Was he saying that as the examiner? - or as a test to see what you'd do if a actual memeber of crew said "that's all fine thanks" in which case praps the correct response *might* be to say look i know you know but others perhaps don't so best is we go through, see?! Not easy...
 
I did chartwork exam this week /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

tell them they have nothing to worry about /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

But READ the questions

Oops just reading more than the first post on the thread /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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The tougher stuff on mobos (and tougher than in a sailing boat) is the close quarter handling, single engine and so on, with a bit of wind. So a decent YM test should more on this for mobos.

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Depends on the sailie boat, there's lots of difference parking modern fin keel job and heavy long keel, especially if the latter has an offset prop. Bit like the difference between landing a modern aircraft and an old taildragger!
 
I think he was agreeing with you that a fin keel yacht is probably the easiest to take into a berth in difficult conditions but that a full length keel with offset prop could be just as much of a pig as a mobo - especially if reverse is required!
 
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Powerskipper is silent on all this - can you please give us a better idea on what is involved?... that is when you are back from sea after your all night session.

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Examiner boarded the boat at 16.30 this afternoon. As the boat being used is a school boat, she has to stay aboard throughout the period of the exam - quiet boring actually! Depends how they get on will dictate the the time they finish!

If the YM prep is done on client's own boat then the YM instructor would normally disembark at the end of the prep course.

The boys are going to have a fun exam, it's blowing strongly in the Solent today. I know, I was out "running in" the new rib. Went from Hamble to Cowes at 3000 rpm - just not enough to maintain planing speed - bloody wet!!! It was better coming back as we could open up to 4000 rpm.

Thread drift Gludy, but something to warm the cockles of your heart! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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An 8 man life raft fitted to a 7 metre rib!

This is an 8 man on a Sealine S38

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Not sure. Boats with keels might twist, but don't go sideways as a mobo does.

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Try a cat. The windage can get you clenching your butt cheeks!
 
Were they out on Alpha?
We've just got back from a relaunch at Hamble Point.
Alpha looked very busy - tried to keep our distance.
Very strong winds and nasty hail at one point - it actually hurt to look ahead so decided to fuel at Port Hamble and wait for storm to pass.
Under way again - Alpha was still at it.
 
just back,
very long exam, 24 hour ,
well just over with about 3 hours sleep, so if I stop typing or it goes wired I have fallen asleep at the key board.

the guys had a very nerve wrecking scary time and got there knickers in a twist, so the examiner gave them time to redeem them selfs,

1 YM pass
1 particle YM pass, [need go retest on a bit]
1 coastal particle pass, [again need reside a bit]


what we did.


berthing,
confined space turns
spring on and off,
finger berthing,
single engine parking and turning.
pilot age, lots
blind Nav, lots
taking fixes loads
predetermined anchor stops.
ship management,
crew management,
food management
crew welfare, [ its cold out there]
ability to explain you intention in a clear , very clear manor to all,
engine knowhow,
safety stuff, how it works,
radar use practical as well
use of depth to aid navigation,
understating an almanac
reading a chart well
knowing where you are all the time.




thats what I can remember at the mo, but am a bit brain dead tonight, nothing unusual you say , LOL.
 
Were you at Port Solent about 12.45 last night? I was out having a last smoke before bed and some mad person came up the fairway turned round and went back again.
 
The Yachtmaster "practical" exam normally follows four days intense prep aboard, and the student is advised to have attended an onshore theory course & exam.

There is no actual Yachtmaster Practical course (unlike Day Skip & Coastal) there is just the prep days.

Indeed someone could approach us and say "look I know practical & theory and have 20,000nm logged already and just want the exam day",

We would however still advise a couple of days prep to a) get familiar with the school vessel and b) get tested on some theory.

Recently we did a Yachtmaster 5 day shorebased Theory & exam for three guys. The next week fresh from their theory exam, they did the four days prep and the exam on the fifth day. They were joined on the third prep day by a local guy who informed us that he had been boating for years thus only needed two days prep, and had indeed done his shorebased threory & exam 18 months prior.

Guess which one of the four failed ................... and on his chartwork etc.......

So the point I am making is that whilst it is refered to as a practical exam and thus includes boat handling showing ability to command, passage making, plotting, blind nav, etc it also includes tests on theory inlcuding flip cards for light and day shapes etc.

A log of 2500nm etc, is aslo suggested (see our web site for full details)

Clive
 
Hi Gludy with blind nav the instructor or examiner will get the students to take the boat to a certain position then stop the boat. Using the inside cabin, one will be put on the helm all the curtains are drawn, the second student will be at the chart table unable to see outside. The scenario is that thick fog has formed and visibilty is down to say 10m.

The helmsman gives the blind nav student the lat & long and the instructor gets the navigator to plot a course to a certain spot using all available info such as buoys, depths and contour lines etc.

The navigator plots the course then gives the bearing(s) to the helmsman and asks that he maintains a certain speed say 6 knts. Using course speed distance and depth contours, the navigator asks the helmsman to call out depths, and marks as he reaches them until they successfully reach there target.

Whilst some folks dread it its actually good fun and very satisfying (when you get it right) Clive
 
"all available info such as buoys, depths and contour lines etc."

I am assuming that you cannot use the chart plotter but can you use radar? I assume you must do to identify buoys as additional positions check. Or do you have to totally rely on depths? In which case how can you use buoys because you would do your best to stop bumping into them?
 
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