lincs
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Thinking off taking my yacht master offshore theory.what i would like to know is,would my 15 years in fishing industry count as logged sea time.???
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footsoldier
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Yachtmaster Theory is a shore-based theoretical course and exam. Sea-time has no relevance.
Sea-time is relevant to the YM Practical exams. I suggest you look at the RYA website for the details.
Sea-time is relevant to the YM Practical exams. I suggest you look at the RYA website for the details.
oceanfroggie
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If you were in command of a fishing vessel it certainly would count (ie towards YMO power)
To acquire a Yachtmaster Offshore certificate the only thing you need to do is pass the "on the water" practical exam which takes a day. You need minima for logged sea miles before taking the exam, and minima for passages, VHF, 1st Aid (see RYA site). However it is normal for folks to do the "shore based theory" course long before attempting the exam. This shore based theory course is not an exam and does not confer a certificate, merely allows a reduction in logged miles required and means the examiner may skip some theory excercises on the day of your full practical exam. Some folks also take a week long "on the water" course concluding with the full exam as this is good prep for the exam.
YMO steps
- Shorebased theory course (typically 20 evening classes or 40hrs over weekends) - OPTIONAL
- On water course (typically 5 days, often with exam option at end) - OPTIONAL
- Practical exam (require logged sea miles, passages day and night, vhf, 1st aid)
Many folk do step 1 and stop, other do 1, combine with their own experience and jump to steps 3. Some who only do step 1 incorrectly claim the are YMs.
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jfm
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If your sea time while fishing has been logged, and you pass the various hurdles (night passages, open water passages, skipper time, etc) it should be fine. But 15years fishing will not be accepted instead of logged sea time
My examiner went throught the log in detail, I think to ensure he wasn't being fobbed off by made-up stuff, so this aspect is checked quite carefully by the examiners I think
neale
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Just to contradict you, my log wasn't looked at at all. I offered it, but was told by the examiner that he would know soon enough if I had the necessary experience to be a YM.
I guess each examiner is different.
lincs
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Thanks for all the reply's.The reason i asked is im getting out of the fishing and looking to work in other marine sectors.
Thanks for all the reply's.The reason i asked is im getting out of the fishing and looking to work in other marine sectors.
AndrewF
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Why go for the YM. If you have a MCA fishing ticket why not look at the standby boats. Or how about a OOW.
Doug_Stormforce
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Mileage gained in the last 10 yrs can count whether leisure, fishing or other commercial.
Command experience is generally more useful.
coastwise
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Qualifying mileage already covered - so fishing milkeage in last 10 years is includeable. Not relevant for YM shore based except a guide of experience .
There is no need to complete any RYA courses if up to standard for examination.
Usually , on examining commercial operators (including several Lincs fishermen) there has been no trouble with the practical side of the examination, but often problems on the underpinning theory due to over reliance on electronic nav aids. So here, shorebased input may be beneficial.
With commercial operators, there is often a problem with gaining the qualifying passage/command time & distance. Cannot skipper without the cert & cannot get the cert without command time. Not so much with fishermen where certs not required for under 16 1/2 m vessels - yet!
Paul (examiner)
There is no need to complete any RYA courses if up to standard for examination.
Usually , on examining commercial operators (including several Lincs fishermen) there has been no trouble with the practical side of the examination, but often problems on the underpinning theory due to over reliance on electronic nav aids. So here, shorebased input may be beneficial.
With commercial operators, there is often a problem with gaining the qualifying passage/command time & distance. Cannot skipper without the cert & cannot get the cert without command time. Not so much with fishermen where certs not required for under 16 1/2 m vessels - yet!
Paul (examiner)
alant
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"This shore based theory course is not an exam and does not confer a certificate, merely allows a reduction in logged miles required and means the examiner may skip some theory excercises on the day of your full practical exam."
???
Since when did a Theory ticket affect logged miles?
oceanfroggie
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I may be out of date but the last time I looked a few years ago, if you had a course "attendance" cert for the shore based theory course, than your required milage was slightly reduced (eg coastal from 800nm to 600nm, offshore 2500nm to 2000nm), but don't know if this applies now.
The ISA modelled their system on the RYA scheme some years ago, but still have the milage exemptions for theory attendance cert holders.
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Paul_G
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before the changes in name (Yachtmaster Coastal/Coastal Skipper) I'd always taken it to be course completion of the Coastal Skipper PRACTICAL that gave a reduced days/miles qualification, which would make more sense than the theory, especially as Yachtmaster theory level of knowledge is a pre requisite.
lincs
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Thats what im trying to find out aLant!
The tickets ive gained in the fishing industry are fine for the boat i skipper at 14m long.As for workboat boat codes of practice and the type of work boats im looking at getting into, the yachtmaster offshore commercially endorsed is what seems to be the ticket required.
Thats what im trying to find out aLant!
The tickets ive gained in the fishing industry are fine for the boat i skipper at 14m long.As for workboat boat codes of practice and the type of work boats im looking at getting into, the yachtmaster offshore commercially endorsed is what seems to be the ticket required.
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timgriffin
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Yes you are right it is the Practical course completion certificate that reduces the mileage not the theory certificate .
It all on the RYA web www.rya.org.uk
Tim
coastwise
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Lincs........ if you wish, "e" me and I can advise on various options.
Paul
Paul
Paul_G
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Tim
The change of name has made the RYA site less clear than it was. It looks as if they have done a find/replace changing Coastal Skipper to Yachtmaster Coastal. In the YM Coastal Exams section it refers to the YM Coastal course completion, but of course (scuse the pun) the practical course is still Coastal Skipper and the theory is YM offshore
lincs
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Thanks Coastwise some advise would be great.If you are who i think you are you took me and a few others in boston for our RYA short range certificate a few years back.
Thanks Coastwise some advise would be great.If you are who i think you are you took me and a few others in boston for our RYA short range certificate a few years back.
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