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are due - over the years they've crept up from around £40 to their present level of £85:00
I went in there once last year but don't seem to be able to pack it in. I'm in Clyde Cruising Club but don't socialise.
Question - Do I pack them both in and become £145:00 better off financially

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I have never quite understood why folk join Yacht Clubs. Can anyone enlighten me? I love meeting people when I am out sailing, and I would, I suspect, be described, by those who know me, as fairly sociable but my experience of visiting YC's, especially the posh ones, is that it's not my scene. I'd prefer to be down the pub with the riff raff!
 

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This sort of post-thatcherite robber baron money grabbing is everywhere. Even The Heybridge Basin Sailing Association broke the tradition of annual membership being the same as the price of a pint at the Old Ship where we meet,,,,,, and there was talk of £5. Tsk tsk!

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Best option is to pack it in and win the 145 quid, imho. This also adds a bit of frisson to the occassional visit to an otherwise dull shed with bar. If challenged as to why you aren't joining, you can um and ah, and offer to come to the yacht club and discuss it, and win the entrance again, and possibly even free drinks. However, I bet that they simply won't notice you haven't paid, and assume that you have.
 

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Yacht Club Memberships

Depends on the club, I suppose. I am still a member of NWVYC in Anglesey, despite not having lived there for 6 years. All of our early cruising experience was cruising in company with club members, which stretched and educated us considerably. I doubt very much whether I would have cruised as extensively without this influence. I am most grateful to those members who provided information, experience and company over five years or so when we were new to the game.
 

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Nearly joined our local yacht club, Dried out my boat against harbour wall (public) to scrub off, drying out nicely when verbally accosted by large unpleasant though well spoken woman demanding to know what I was doing there, and demanding to know whether I was member of "our club." The inference being that if not I shouldn't be drying out there. Despite her blatent bad manners I pointed out politely that I every right to be there. She then started raving on about people like me damaging the fence along the top of the wall by tying off to it, this despite the fact that I was in fact tied to the rings supplied for this very purpose, not the fence, This is my only experience of yacht clubs and I for one will save my money. My only regret is that I did not take a photo of this 'lady' as I feel a copy placed in the window would have served as a fine burgler deterent. Fair winds (to all except afforementioned lady) Mike
 

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Sounds like there's a lot of mean spirited, ill founded prejudice abroad here. We've been members of a yacht club for years now and we enjoy the warm conviviality of spending time with people who share our interests. A few years ago the club built a small haven where members can berth their boats at a cost substantially lower than elsewhere on the South Coast. And we always make visitors welcome - there's always someone to lend a hand with lines etc.There are a whole range of social events, practical events and cruises in company which members can involve themselves in or happily do their own thing. And we've never come across the snobbishness which other contributors to this thread would seem to believe is endemic. If some people would rather spend time with the so-called "riff raff" in the pub then probably that's where they belong.
 

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Claymore.

A number of the responders are muttering about Club bars and the like. You have to decide what you get for your money. No bar - no clubhouse - what exactly do you get for your money???

I'm a member of the CCC for the very sociable racing (bottom of the league in Class 6 - can only get better next season) and a member of Kyles of Bute SC for my mooring.

Yer pays yer money.......

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Quite right really Donald - I think Vyv identified the crux of the issue in that there are people I developed my sailing and racing skills with and are people of like mind/similar interest. I just got out of the habit of going once we stopped dinghy racing and then when I moved the boat up to Scotland. It's too far for me to socialise at CCC events but I do enjoy the journal and have been to a few anchorages that people have written about - I feel I get value for money from CCC but would never aspire to be one of the "in-crowd" as that isn't really my style.
My local club is Blackpool and Fleetwood and somehow its a loyalty thing - I rather feel I'd be letting them down if I lapsed my membership- even though I hardly ever go there - and whilst the subs were pitched in the £50 area I never questioned it at £1 per week, but I am questioning it at todays amount. It's like a lot of things really - I used to spend quite a bit of time there - all my time according to Dear Heart - but that time has been filled with other things now - not gardening according to Dear Heart.
I know full well I'll say to myself that I'll give it one more year - as I did last year and the one before!


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Re: Yacht Club Memberships

I agree. I joined Chichester Yacht Club when I first started 'big boy' sailing. I dont think I would have got the kids (then) and the ex her-in-doors out sailing at all without the club members support. I'm still a member an 'away' member. infact my £35 went off yesterday. I'm also a new member of the local sailing club Ålesund Seilforening, still another £30.
I read in CYC newsletter on their website and hope to be contributing a few lines now and again, pop-in for a cut-price jar when I'm visiting.
Then be an active member of ÅS when sailing over here.
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I'm really surprised that Jimi hasn't jumped in horrified at the amount. Yes its funny about the 'in-crowd' I know of fellow sailors who are members of the CCC but shy away from the musters and the racing programme.

I'm more than happy to pay the money, but i accept that some people are just not 'clubby'(?).

I dont get too involved with the Kyles of Bute sailing club, but again the subs rocketed up to £14 this year..... to pay for more cadet training. Now that is value for money and I fully support.

I also fully support the work that the CCC does through its Pilotage Foundation and help it gives to disabled sailors on the West Coast.

Although the CCC has in excess of 2000 members, and no Clubhouse - I think what they put back into sailing on the west coast with the Pilotage Foundation / CCC Directions / Scottish Series (for the racers - doesn't look much fun to me) / Cadet training makes the £80 family memebership seem worthwhile.

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The point of these clubs is pooling a collective of people with similar interests together in order to make best use of their resorces. My club for example has a boat lift and a compound. The cost of using this including membership is vastly cheaper than MDL would be. They also have moorings that cost less than £500 a year.

Niether of these I could afford myself so I join the club. The club is owned by its members, the rules are set by the members, the fees are set by the members. IMHO, if you don't like the fees, change them. if you mave not got the majority agreeing with you then you quit.

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I'm well aware of the benefits of a club, but if you join a club, never go there, whats the point, please tell me that? That's the point I was making, nothing else! Not the price, it could be 10p, but if you don't use the club it's 10p wasted, give it to the RNLI.
 

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I can see Claymore's point: I'm in three, none of which has a clubhouse. I'm active in Arran and Fairlie but the CCC has moved away from me. Its offshore racing series is all but dead. We were the only boat in our class to turn out for the shortest race of the series last year - the race officer didn't even hang around the extra 10 minutes after the class ahead to give us a finish (after 9 hours racing) even though the main trophies go to combined classes. It felt like we were the poor relations to the IRC 1 boys (which is, of course, true, but it's not as if there were many of them either). I don't take part in the inshore passage racing or long distance cruising in company. For two years now, one race (2 class entries in 2001, 1 in 2002) has been costing me my subs plus a 20 quid entry fee. It's unlikely I'll enter again. In which case, what's the point?
 

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That Colin is the very crux of my dilemma - its like buying a boat - I can afford to charter a boat I could never afford to buy but still I own one - common sense dictates one thing but the heart another I'm afraid!

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