Would you use a lifeline and harness on a motorboat?

[Bouba]

Ok last question , mob , you put your life jacket on, make a mayday , then go and help Mob . Don’t worry you will never see them again.

Never taking your eye off the person in the water...while maneuvering the boat and walking out to the transom...is indeed a difficult feat

 

[Seastoke]

Ok the reason we wear LJ . We came back into boating after having the place abroad well Spain after ten years Nigel told me that things are changing , with Europe ,so decided to sell up. Then we got a 36 ft mobo from the black water and moved her up to the Welch Med, the down side was , I met Bruce K and Quackers, not the good points . So we had dropped anchor off Llandudno, went ashore and on the seafront there is a plaque about a boat accident . Five people all young lost their lives . The is a saying carved in stone . ONLY THE TIDE IS GUARANTEED TO RETURN TO SHORE.
After reading that we made a ,could be life saving decision.

 

[Seastoke]

That legislation was supported by factual evidence. Proven after the fact to be right.

With life jackets what is the problem compulsion would be trying to fix? Provide evidence not anecdotes.

I think the evidence ,is that fishermen have to wear them now, but I don’t want it compulsory for leisure .

 

[Momac]

Wife and I always wear a lifejacket when underway , even on the river. Even though I am usually at a safe helm I don't want to be wasting valuable seconds putting a lifejacket on if the wife has gone overboard.
Can't say I like the lifeline idea as a thing that is worn and used routinely as it seems equally likely to cause injury as it would to save injury. However a lifeline available for use located near the stern and to be used by the crew on board when helping to recover a MOB sounds like it could be worth considering.

 

[Seastoke]

Wife and I always wear a lifejacket when underway , even on the river. Even though I am usually at a safe helm I don't want to be wasting valuable seconds putting a lifejacket on if the wife has gone overboard.
Can't say I like the lifeline idea as a thing that is worn and used routinely as it seems equally likely to cause injury as it would to save injury. However a lifeline available for use located near the stern and to be used by the crew on board when helping to recover a MOB sounds like it could be worth considering.

Get one with horse shoe ,

 

[Bouba]

Whatever you use for lines…make sure they float…including the clips

 

[PaulRainbow]

On the water yes, so does the RNLI . I don’t use when at anchor.

You didn't answer my question. You say they should be worn at all time, so does that include helming from the lower helm, or in the galley making sandwiches etc ?

Does the RNLI actually say they should be worn at all times ?

 

[Seastoke]

You didn't answer my question. You say they should be worn at all time, so does that include helming from the lower helm, or in the galley making sandwiches etc ?

Does the RNLI actually say they should be worn at all times ?

Sorry your Honour, yes any time on the water , even having a dump. If you are on your boat now cruising at 20k you are on the bridge lj next to you so is wife ‘s she goes down below make a brew , carrying two cups trips coming out of saloon strait over the stern , you hear a noise quickly realise she is mob . Do you put in neutral, turn around , make a mayday , or put your life jacket on !! My guess is panic . And yes the RNLI DO RECCOMEND to wear. My conclusion is the captain has his own choice it is his life , BUT OTHERS.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Sorry your Honour, yes any time on the water , even having a dump. If you are on your boat now cruising at 20k you are on the bridge lj next to you so is wife ‘s she goes down below make a brew , carrying two cups trips coming out of saloon strait over the stern , you hear a noise quickly realise she is mob . Do you put in neutral, turn around , make a mayday , or put your life jacket on !! My guess is panic . And yes the RNLI DO RECCOMEND to wear. My conclusion is the captain has his own choice it is his life , BUT OTHERS.

So the boat is cruising at 20 kts, you're in the heads, the boat hits a semi submerged object and holes the hull. Your life jacket goes off and pins you to the headlining. You drown.

 

[ylop]

So the boat is cruising at 20 kts, you're in the heads, the boat hits a semi submerged object and holes the hull. Your life jacket goes off and pins you to the headlining. You drown.

If only there was a way to let air out of a life jacket? Not that I’m advocating that people need to wear lifejackets below decks…

 

[ylop]

Sorry your Honour, yes any time on the water , even having a dump. If you are on your boat now cruising at 20k you are on the bridge lj next to you so is wife ‘s she goes down below make a brew , carrying two cups trips coming out of saloon strait over the stern , you hear a noise quickly realise she is mob . Do you put in neutral, turn around , make a mayday , or put your life jacket on !! My guess is panic . And yes the RNLI DO RECCOMEND to wear. My conclusion is the captain has his own choice it is his life , BUT OTHERS.

Are you sure the RNLI actually say/mean that? I suspect they are intentionally ambiguous!

The MCGA however are quite clear: Onboard safety “when on deck”.

 

[PaulRainbow]

If only there was a way to let air out of a life jacket? Not that I’m advocating that people need to wear lifejackets below decks…

When you are being pinned to the roof, with water gushing in, how fast can you deflate the life jacket ?

 

[Seastoke]

So the boat is cruising at 20 kts, you're in the heads, the boat hits a semi submerged object and holes the hull. Your life jacket goes off and pins you to the headlining. You drown.

A captain has to go down with his ship, you never answered my question.

 

[Seastoke]

When you are being pinned to the roof, with water gushing in, how fast can you deflate the life jacket ?

I can’t I am still having a shit.

 

[Seastoke]

Are you sure the RNLI actually say/mean that? I suspect they are intentionally ambiguous!

The MCGA however are quite clear: Onboard safety “when on deck”.

Yes.

 

[Seastoke]

Yes.

Do you think they would have different policies on safety.

So the boat is cruising at 20 kts, you're in the heads, the boat hits a semi submerged object and holes the hull. Your life jacket goes off and pins you to the headlining. You drown.

 

[Momac]

So the boat is cruising at 20 kts, you're in the heads, the boat hits a semi submerged object and holes the hull. Your life jacket goes off and pins you to the headlining. You drown.

There must be a very low risk of those two events coinciding,
I do take a pee under way but never while the boat is doing 20kts - would slow down for that anyway .

 

[Bouba]

There must be a very low risk of those two events coinciding,
I do take a pee under way but never while the boat is doing 20kts - would slow down for that anyway .

The real problem is you try to pee overboard

 

[PaulRainbow]

There must be a very low risk of those two events coinciding,
I do take a pee under way but never while the boat is doing 20kts - would slow down for that anyway .

Perhaps, but there are many reasons for being below and you don't have to be doing 20 kts to hit something and hole the hull.

My point is, insisting that you should wear a life jacket all of the time you are onboard is not exactly a good policy.

 

[Seastoke]

I suppose you could hit submerged bodies with no life jackets on.