Elessar
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ah that old chestnut.
So I've told you when I would use a lifeline, when would you (and when would you suggest I) wear a lifejacket?
Supplementary question where do you keep your lifejackets?
Would you use a lifeline and harness on a motorboat?
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So I've told you when I would use a lifeline, when would you (and when would you suggest I) wear a lifejacket?
Supplementary question where do you keep your lifejackets?
potentillaCO32
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The good ship mont st. Michel
stelican
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Very useful for young children in cockpit whilst on the move
Have fitted several MBs with central cockpit D eyes and tethers appropriate length to allow children full access to cockpit without going overboard.
Have fitted several MBs with central cockpit D eyes and tethers appropriate length to allow children full access to cockpit without going overboard.
Seastoke
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Good evening , well my life line is mounted on the boat it is attached to my horse shoe Buoy. The jackets are in the spare bedroom wardrobe, the jackets are deployed before we check our passage plan . When it’s blowing a hoolie I wear it on the jetty ,when taking the dog out. Where should you wear your jacket , well this is a free country , except on this platform, so I want you to wear it when on the water.
Elessar
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In most British marinas the most hazardous part of your boating is between the car and the boat. Or the pub and the boat.
So you’d be safer than you are now if you kept it in the car and took it off when you went boating.
Lifejackets have their place as part of a considered risk assessment and I’m taking the mickey a little unfairly as you’ve clearly thought about it unlike many life jacket evangelists.
For my use case I very rarely wear it underway in the main boat.
The kill cord for the tender is attached to my lifejacket so I always wear it in that.
Seastoke
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A life line does concern me , so when say you are going up the Hamble tide is going out , wife goes up front to put out fenders and get mooring ropes ready. She is wearing a safety harness , then falls over board , but the rope raps around her neck , you get a pay out.
rafiki_
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Recovering a MoB via the bathing platform, in any sort of seas, is likely to cause the casualty to be seriously damaged as the platform rises and dumps down. On a sailing boat we practice recovery with a halyard. Clearly not possible on a mobo, but you could use the anchor winch, wrapping a warp around the winch and through a fairlead. Actually I would try my tender first.
Sticky Fingers
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Or davits, or passarelle as a crane, if you have one. Or hi/lo platform.
Elessar
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A harness on a mobo when putting fenders out is always going to create more risk than it eliminates. The bathing platform is the only use case I can think of.
Elessar
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that wouldn’t work. A debate over the next beer we have!
Little Ricky
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Id like to "like" this comment but I'm afraid that if I do, the police might check my insurance history and ask where my wife has been these last few years :/
ari
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Very much my thinking which is why I asked the question above to the person to claims to wear one putting out the fenders but I got no reply.
Perhaps they have a sailboat and inboard jackstays running fore and aft along the deck in which case it might make sense, but I can't see how you could clip on safely on a normal motorboat (which is what we're talking about here) in such a way that wouldn't impede movement up and down the decks but would stop you going overboard.
piratos
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Man overboard recovery with Dacon Rescue Frame
https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...B5706321972D0B86152FB5706321972D0B8&FORM=VIRE
Its anybody's choice to use a harness, when and where, but personally I fear that the normal motorboat is unsuitable for this. If you look at e.g. the pilot boats they have a rail at a position where the pilot will not hang over the side if shit happens. Imagine with a line aft to forward you fell overboard and hang in the water just at the aft end with your legs in the props.....
An No, I do not have a recoverysystem onboard, but maybe I should ...
ylop
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I think MoBos vary so much in shape, style and typical use that it would be hard to make meaningful comparisons between your normal and other people’s normal.
Seastoke
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Just say she is a bit tied up at the moment.
Bouba
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I think about that.....in effect you are keel hauling yourself
wonkywinch
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She's not with my solicitor is she? Every time I call, the receptionist tells me "he's tied up with a client".
As to use or not to use a line, how about running through a simple risk analysis with yourself? I use BRAN.
Benefits - Prevent or minimise MOB situation where entering water = near certain death due age/temperature
Risks - Tangled up, dragged under, trip hazard
Alternative - Stay in cockpit, don't go sailing
Nothing - do nothing, "keep calm & carry on" and be better off than above?
Seastoke
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Who did you ask.
Metalicmike
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Everyone has their own opinion with regard to acceptable risk, but it's yours that matters and circumstances always dictate. I would rather be an alive wimp than be fearless and dead.
Little Ricky
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I'm not sure that not having a harness means you're fearless and die?
