would you give a dam

[Buck Turgidson]

Well the association in question is easily accessible. run very well and id very much recommend it. which some would think contradicts my thread. it does not. Ive very much supported it for years and the service to outside visitors would be second to none. Social media however brings a different element in to the equation. Pm bitching and our associations apparent facebook page a platform for a sidekicks over inflated ego. exactly where the problems started. fine if your not on the receiving end. For me it has been difficult.
Steveeasy

The Facebook page is not part of the association but was set up independently by an owner.
I have had nothing but a good experience with both.

I'm sorry if someone has upset you Steve but this thread doesn't do you any favours and I think it would useful to make it clear if this incident is related to the association and it's website or somewhere else (Facebook?) as it not at all clear.

 

[steveeasy]

The Facebook page is not part of the association but was set up independently by an owner.
I have had nothing but a good experience with both.

I'm sorry if someone has upset you Steve but this thread doesn't do you any favours and I think it would useful to make it clear if this incident is related to the association and it's website or somewhere else (Facebook?) as it not at all clear.

well the Association refers to the facebook page as its social media page . Ive had conversations with the Associations secretary and they are linked. I am pleased you have had good experiences with both. My thread is clear. it is about an image posted on Facebook by the secretary of the association. I am not sure how posting an image of the inside of my boat without my consent and the poster refusing to acknowledge the concerns I raised directly with him can do me no favours. The event is factually correct. I believe it was wrong and poor judgement.

As for my personal experiences with the secretary and indeed the social media guru. I dont think it would be appropriate for me to go in to any details on here.I dont think it would be appropriate. you know nothing about it so please dont try and defend something you know not about.

As for doing me no favours. Of course it doesnt. But that does not mean I should accept things that I see are unfair or wrong. the image was an ill judged decision. telling me not to advertise my boat if it was a pun. was ill judged. How about the treatment I received in July. I felt like topping myself it was so dreadful. I could go on and in detail. no laws were broken. treating individuals badly is not a crime. its bloody disgusting though. try being on the receiving end and see if your experience is fine.
I keep my boat on the same place as the man in question. do you think I enjoy this. its been constant over 5 years. I am a very good judge of character and I know the difference between right and wrong and what is morally right and wrong. You have seen my posts on both facebook and the Association website. they have been polite. in support of both and I am a very genuine and supportive member. I still am now see above. you just dont like or agree with my posts. That does not mean they are misleading or incorrect.
What do you expect me to do David. Tell me how to deal with the matter. should I just lay down and accept it. youve known for sometime I suspect

Steveeasy

 

[Buck Turgidson]

I would have kept it in house, but that's me. You should do what you feel is right.
I didn't see the photo or any of the discussion, first I heard was on here. Hence my surprise.

 

[steveeasy]

I would have kept it in house, but that's me. You should do what you feel is right.
I didn't see the photo or any of the discussion, first I heard was on here. Hence my surprise.

Would you have kept it in house. you may never have had a problem to keep in house. Your ok so it does not matter. Yes I agree with you its unsavoury. becoming very unwelcome reading. I have to respond to your post. I wont get in to detail. The thread was specific. it was to get advice about an image. to get an opinion on weither it would frustrate other people. would you give a dam. Tell me why it happened. why was I told to remove my boat from sale in October. you dont know why or have an answer. I do , Ive stated in the past its best to never go there.
As with everything, there is always more too it. Question for you. ever sat somewhere where you cant cope any longer being bullied or treated like XXXX for hours and realised your just muck on someones shoe. not because your bad or nasty, just because someone is so bloody predidicial they can bully you or treat you with utter lack of moral respect.. ever been there. try it, it is not a nice place. You might well be fine, Think im a drama queen ,a bad person , I know a lot about how to treat people than some. Ive trained in leadership skills and my business was voted best venue in 2019 out of 200 venues. not for multi million pound facilities but for customer care. knowing how to treat people with dignity and respect.

So lets leave this aspect and focus on would you mind a bad pic of your boat being posted on social media. and if you did would you mind if they refused to remove it. thats specific.
Steveeasy

 

[steveeasy]

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[Tranona]

So lets leave this aspect and focus on would you mind a bad pic of your boat being posted on social media. and if you did would you mind if they refused to remove it. thats specific.
Steveeasy

Sorry Steve, but the answer is simple. Just stay away from social media. It is poisoning our society and you can live life to the full without ever engaging with it. Forums like this are generally OK, although at times they do get taken over by the poisoners - I kept off for 3 years or so for that very reason.

You have a lovely boat, and you should not give a stuff what others say or post about it. It will have absolutely no effect on whether you sell it or even your enjoyment if you keep it.

 

[steve yates]

Steve, your diving head firstdown a rabbithole. Stop. None of it is worth it, and it doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things. Forget bawjaws, forget random pics of your boat posted malicously, forget facebook, forget your association. Online is not the real world.
Decide if you want to sell your boat or not, my impression is you dont really want to. Thats fine, if not wait this shit weather out, get in your boat and take her sailing. If you really do want to sell, then do it properly. Its just a boat, forget thishallowed twister rubbish. Empty your stuff from it, photograph it from head to toe, do what Neal suggests and the deed will be done. No more twister, no more class association. Move on, buy your next one. Boats are vehicles to bring our dreams closer to reality, they are not that important of themselves, despite the mystique we endow upon them.

 

[penfold]

I'd endorse the suggestion that social media isn't for everyone. Also life is too short for spending it in the company of people who clearly have no social graces and that you don't like, never mind having them on your boat.

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Whats wrong with this then!!. Bright, clean. nice cockpit sole. Too many sail bags. Do you really need to see the Loo. A Twister is all about practicalities. Its not a gin palace. Forget the cushions and bottle of wine. They are functional, practical sailboats. I fully agree more pics are better.

That's a bloody awful picture, nothing's in focus, needs some fill-in flash(most smart phones will take a better picture than this) and it makes the boat look cramped; Twisters are not roomy but neither are they cramped, no need to give the casual browser the wrong impression. Offload all the stuff and take the pictures again.

 

[steveeasy]

No rabbit holes in my life. but thanks for the words of wisdom. I run from nothing. I avoid nasty people and will continue to be an active member of my our, the, association to share our positive experiences. Nothing I have done has been wrong and ill not be made to feel like I have. In the real world that probably wont quite work out but heck. I tried.
Steveeasy

 

[steveeasy]

Like others here all I was doing was reading stuff I a interested in 2 nights ago. Saw a pic did not like it asked for it to be removed.
I put my boat up for sale and was told if a pun remove it.

I’m not and have done nothing wrong. So why Should I feel the need to leave what I enjoy.
perhaps the person who feels they can dictate to me what I can and can’t do and treat me like should reflect.
Buck unless I’m wrong I do no more than you. I post nice comments. I follow posts. Perfectly respectful members. So why should I have to stop.

your guessed right I am not keen on the odd person but that in no way changes how I react or respond. Perfect online courteous behaviour.

 

[Mister E]

Steve if you don't get on with the bloke why sail with him?

 

[Poignard]

Steve if you don't get on with the bloke why sail with him?

Stockholm Syndrome?

 

[steveeasy]

Just to let you know where I am. Thank you for all your advice. I have removed my day in the life account. it was very true reflection of what I felt happened. in respect to those involved of which I have no desire or intention to offend it has been removed. why sail with him. I think if youve read it, It was suggested he wished to come out. I made an error of judgement. dont we all. I also would also emphasise I see good in almost every one and that is how it is. It is not the single action but an accumulation of events/comment/actions that can lead to unsavoury situations. dispute it, but most have been there. we are grown men and should ensure we treat like minded sailors with respect at all times. is that not right.?

At present I am a member of an association of 200 members. There are no rules, no constitution. One person being judge and jurer. No policies in place. A random Facebook page. linked, but not linked ,run by his mate. no policies to achieve any outcomes other than what they would like. As a member and a very genuine one that has supported the association for 6 years I am proposing a committee is set up to oversee rules and constitution. and this will then address matters raised by members. £12,000 held in an account That |I might add is perfectly well looked after. but who determines how it is used. his mate.

Also in 2022. The ethos of any group or association show encapsulate fairness. opportunity for all and most importantly a level of common decency to all members to promote a friendly and diverse membership. Now that would be a fitting end to this sad thread.

Thank You for your advice.

Stephen

 

[steveeasy]

Stockholm Syndrome?

Looked up the definition. not far off I recon.

 

[steveeasy]

Steve if you don't get on with the bloke why sail with him?

Sorry I do like him. I forgot how bad he could be. I dont really dislike anyone. why should I. Its not about not getting on. its about being put in a place where you cant remove yourself from and being subjected to continual abuse. or being completely sidelined, or being put down for his pleasure. its not physical its mental torture. I dont need to grow a pair, I dont like confrontation . I can fight back thats for sure, but not in that type of situation. why would I want too either.

im not too bothered if some think im weak. I am who I am. I am a nice bloke, a good member. ive helped lots of others and i dont like being discredited. does anyone.

I intend to stop commenting now and focus on the above as its the best way to address the situation. A remedy I would not have found without posting here.

 

[Mister E]

I am in no way suggesting a confrontation, mora a try and avoid him as much as possible. Not getting into any social situations with him would be a good start.