Windlass problem

[SteveSarabande]

It is marked S-L Hyspeed. Not sure what model this is, can anyone identify.

It was on the boat when I got it. It is pretty seized up, when i unwind the wheel to release the chain it does nothing, just seized up I assume.

More serious is when i use the handle, as i move it aft the drums rotate, but when i release the pressure it doesn't latch in place, just unwinds the chain as the handle comes forward. Then randomly it the handle slips and does nothing. Jiggling the drum seems to re-engage the handle.i

I unscrewed the oil point bolt and it is full of oil, there is what looks like a grease nipple on the end of ghe a le, but it is all rusted up


Is it worth fixing? Are parts available

 

[SteveSarabande]

Oops cant upload photos using iphone5

 

[sideshowbob]

We have exactly the same issue so would be interested to read any responses as well

 

[KellysEye]

Try using Photobucket.

If the unwind is seized and releasing the chain doesn't work my bet is you will have to replace it. The question is have the bolts that hold the winch on also seized. We had that and to get the winch off they had to cut a hole in the deck. When they tried to get the winch apart they used a 20 ton press and it wouldn't come apart. The hole in the deck was rebuilt (steel boat) and a new winch fitted. Moral of the story service the winch every year and spray the holding bolts with WD40 regularly.

 

[SteveSarabande]

Not sure if this link will work off my stevesarabande facebook account

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1529927_230487857133644_1601302426_o.jpg?dl=1

 

[mcalan]

Looks like a Simpson Lawrence Hy Speed I think some parts will still be available
try http://www.slspares.co.uk/parts.php?product=Hyspeed+510+Windlass


I had a similar problem with a SL seahorse completely seized placed in a bucket of diesel for a few weeks sorted it !

 

[GHA]

I have one in a locker somewhere, bit awkward to take apart but you can replace the chain inside with bicycle chain, there's a what looks like bike sprocket inside as well.
Worth having a go at.
http://www.slspares.co.uk/parts.php?product=Hyspeed+510+Windlass
http://www.lewmar.com/\assets\img\dataset\Manual-S-L Hyspeed-D1021-1.pdf

 

[SteveSarabande]

Those links are great. Expensive bit of kit to replace, i would go electric rather than replace it.

If the handle turns the drum the i am assuming the chain is connected, so what could cause it not to hold the drum when i release the handle. I think i might have a go at dismantalling it

 

[mcalan]

It could be the cone clutch its fairly easy to see what's going on once you have it open.
But opening it could be the hard part so if its at all difficult soak it in a bucket of diesel !!!

Mine is now working perfectly!!!

In fact yours should be better in side as it runs in an oil bath whereas mine is just packed with grease

 

[pvb]

Those links are great. Expensive bit of kit to replace, i would go electric rather than replace it.

If the handle turns the drum the i am assuming the chain is connected, so what could cause it not to hold the drum when i release the handle. I think i might have a go at dismantalling it

The mechanicals inside are simple bike chains and bike ratchet sprockets, I rebuilt one once with bits from my local bike shop.

 

[SteveSarabande]

I am going to try some plusgas to see if i can get the clutch to release before i bother taking it all off the boat

 

[SteveSarabande]

Only the aft movement of the handle works, not working as a double action so iam guessing the chain or the frewheel sprocket is knackered. As previously noted getting it apart will be the hardest bit

 

[GHA]

Those links are great. Expensive bit of kit to replace, i would go electric rather than replace it.

Having cruised full time with one of those then an electric with a remote...................
Life changer

 

[GHA]

Only the aft movement of the handle works, not working as a double action so iam guessing the chain or the frewheel sprocket is knackered. As previously noted getting it apart will be the hardest bit

That sounds familiar, think I had the same, one chain broken.

 

[SteveSarabande]

Having cruised full time with one of those then an electric with a remote...................

Life changer

I can appreciate that but i am doing it by hand for now, trying to use the windlass money for other projects

 

[SteveSarabande]

Some succes. Am on the boat overnight, but my tools are at home :-(
I managed to loosen the clutch nut and free the gypsy from the clutch. The clutch and inside of the gypsy are pretty rusty. Plusgas and the parts diagram helped. So now I can lower the anchor.

Problem now is how to get the clutch nut off the mainshaft as the whole lot including the drum on the other side are spinning freely. Maybe I need some tools to jam in between the drum and the housing to hold it still, or maybe the plusgas will loosen the clutch nut more overnight.

 

[GHA]

Some succes. Am on the boat overnight, but my tools are at home :-(
I managed to loosen the clutch nut and free the gypsy from the clutch. The clutch and inside of the gypsy are pretty rusty. Plusgas and the parts diagram helped. So now I can lower the anchor.

Problem now is how to get the clutch nut off the mainshaft as the whole lot including the drum on the other side are spinning freely. Maybe I need some tools to jam in between the drum and the housing to hold it still, or maybe the plusgas will loosen the clutch nut more overnight.

Been there! But can't remember how I did it, might have wrapped a line around the capstan and tied it off somewhere.

One thing which will help massively is a punch the right size to knock the pin out which attaches the clutch cone to the shaft.

 

[SteveSarabande]

Been there! But can't remember how I did it, might have wrapped a line around the capstan and tied it off somewhere.

One thing which will help massively is a punch the right size to knock the pin out which attaches the clutch cone to the shaft.

I just noticed the split pin. A suitably sized drill bit and hammer will probably work. I think more tools are required. I will try to get the gypsy and clutch cleaned up tomorrow, further stuff will have to wait until saturday when i am back with the tool bag.