Why is the UK leisure marine market dominated by oversized luxury motor yachts?

[MapisM]

Just looked up ad blue

No need to worry about that, J.
As previously discussed, one advantage of boats is that you don't need bothering with adblue - it's sufficient to use the content of blackwater tank, hence killing two birds with one stone:
1) neither a big blackwater tank nor a separate ad blue tank are necessary anymore;
2) no need to refill ad blue. Just stock plenty of beer and drink it as if there's no tomorrow, job done.
If that isn't a win-win situation, I don't know what else is...

 

[Sea Master]

As the OP I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this post. I have learnt a lot about UK boaters attitudes and it sounds like most agree that the UK motor boat building industry is unbalanced due to global economic forces and flagging domestic demand but is also behind its competitors when it comes to alternative hull designs and fuel efficiency.

Regarding the allure of this style of boat, I like Maby's reply about 'the ultimate seaside weekend cottage' to entertain friends in comfort and style within a 10-15 mile radius of the marina, nothing wrong with that. The great British weather also seems to dampen spirits here but I don't buy that at all, Brits have a long boating history in UK built boats but in future these look set to be older and older UK boats or cheaper foreign built ones, perhaps the Chinese will be selling us rebranded Brooms along with Chinese built Sunseekers. It will be interesting to watch.

I can assure Petem that I am not a journo looking for a story, although I do think this is an interesting subject for a YouTube documentary. Im just interested in the economics of a major UK industry and leisure pursuit that doesn't get a lot of unbiased coverage elsewhere. I buy the UK boat magazines but they don't seem to challenge the large boat builders who advertise in their pages and provide them with boats to demo.

I am looking to find a boat share or set up a syndicate for a used semi-displacement cruising boat like a Nelson or Aquastar and have advertised on boatsharefinder.co.uk. If you know of a share please get in touch.

Thanks all

 

[ari]

I am looking to find a boat share or set up a syndicate for a used semi-displacement cruising boat like a Nelson or Aquastar and have advertised on boatsharefinder.co.uk. If you know of a share please get in touch.

Thanks all

A large, inefficient, luxury motor yacht? Well, it's not white I suppose...

 

[pan]

Perceptions can be misleading.... have a look at this worldwide order book on Boat International, UK boat manufacturing is irrelevant compared to Italy!
http://cdn.boatinternational.com/bi...SR3e7wEMw9og_2016 Global Order Book table.pdf

 

[petem]

As the OP I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this post. I have learnt a lot about UK boaters attitudes and it sounds like most agree that the UK motor boat building industry is unbalanced due to global economic forces and flagging domestic demand but is also behind its competitors when it comes to alternative hull designs and fuel efficiency.

Regarding the allure of this style of boat, I like Maby's reply about 'the ultimate seaside weekend cottage' to entertain friends in comfort and style within a 10-15 mile radius of the marina, nothing wrong with that. The great British weather also seems to dampen spirits here but I don't buy that at all, Brits have a long boating history in UK built boats but in future these look set to be older and older UK boats or cheaper foreign built ones, perhaps the Chinese will be selling us rebranded Brooms along with Chinese built Sunseekers. It will be interesting to watch.

I can assure Petem that I am not a journo looking for a story, although I do think this is an interesting subject for a YouTube documentary. Im just interested in the economics of a major UK industry and leisure pursuit that doesn't get a lot of unbiased coverage elsewhere. I buy the UK boat magazines but they don't seem to challenge the large boat builders who advertise in their pages and provide them with boats to demo.

I am looking to find a boat share or set up a syndicate for a used semi-displacement cruising boat like a Nelson or Aquastar and have advertised on boatsharefinder.co.uk. If you know of a share please get in touch.

Thanks all

Thanks for the explanation and I wish you well with your syndicate.

 

[Eren]

At tickover we burn about 14 litres an hour between the 2 engines and cruise at 6.5 - 7 knots.

Hi Henry,

I wonder if you have tried this "tickover" cruising for many years by now and were able to see the results at your engines? Have you done long passages this way (i.e. 8 hours per day) the same way?

Would be grateful for your input.

Eren

 

[volvopaul]

The add blue mix percentage is very little, it's there to keep the emissions down when the engine is running at certain temps, load, and cycle, it's not injected all the time. Vehicles have it , even the new Ford Transit will have it to make tier 4 regs on the new 2.2 engine . No builder would need to fit a 500 litre tank unless they wanted to fill it and it last for years.

It will eventually come in on marine diesels , I'm at a loss as to how they will design the exhaust with a DPF or Cat converter .
Vehicles have problems already when the go into regen mode, for example the new Transit Custom likes to set certain parts on fire when it regens the DPF as it's running at 500 degrees plus, I'd say design has to come a long way before it hits the boat market and builders will have to work a lot closer with engine manufacturers on this one to make it totally safe for a start, I already see so many bad installations of new engines that basically slip through because there are no set standards of manufacture.

 

[rafiki_]

Paul, it really depends on which gases or particulants the regulators want to control. The whole VW scandal relates to urea consumption, and its impact on through life costs. DPF's are there to reduce smoke and particulate matters (pm's). They are generally extremely effective, as long as the vehicle duty cycle can light-off the dpf in order to regenerate. In cars this happens at motorway duty cycles. Cars that only operate in congestion have a problem, causing mil (malfunction info lights) issues, and regular trips to dealers. In the boat world, only those that operate in cities are really of issue with smoke. Boats in cities will operate on low duty cycles, hence if dpf fitted, will create a problem. Boats operating on the coast are of little impact with regard to emissions, as their overall impact is minimal. Cats can be fitted without a problem, but to what end?