Why do we put up with Chinese goods?

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We are told that the world has changed and our role as a manufacturing nation has changed because companies can source goods cheaper from China where "production costs are lower" and we must get used to our role of being suppliers of High Tech items and sophisticated services.

Does anyone here own anything more than 2 years old that was made in China?

My dinghy cover supplied by Marine Superstore lasted five weeks before in disintegrated and blew away. Of the two Random Orbital Polishers i took out to Corfu last month, neither is working. The first burned out after less than two minutes use. The second after two days refused to switch off once the trigger was released. Yes. you've guessed it - Made in China! My son rang last night to say that the trainers which he'd bought against parental advice had only lasted two months before the soles started coming away from the uppers!

Now I don't mind supporting an emergent nation but I refuse to see our manufacturing base destroyed by people making crap.

They are very cunning these people. What they make LOOKS exactly like the "real" thing which obviously fools the buyers of companies like our chandleries and Tesco but sadly, we the users end up with rubbish that just outlasts the warranty.

My boat cover looked like those once sold by Plastimo & another Scandinavian manufacturer who's name I've forgotten but it was made of a totally inadequate spec fabric which wasn't UV stable.

The first polisher brandeed "Sealey" had brush holders made of soft cheap plastic which just simply weren't up to the job - the supplier told me that he had received many back. the second polisher's trigger spring had lost it's temper. Someone on here a few days ago told of a Dyson cleaner that packed up prematurely and that too was of "re-located" manufacture to China.

How safe would you feel in a lifejacket "Made in China" when floating in the English Channel one dark cold night?

I always try to buy quality on the theory that I'm really only spending the difference between the best and the "standard model" but since all this imported junk from China has closed down the quality manufacturers it's nearly impossible to get anything of quality anymore - the factory closed down long ago.

I thought that we are living in a new age of reducing waste & rubbish. Surely then goods should last at least as long as they did when manufactured here. How can we pass on the role of "World's consumer goods manufacturer" to China when all they know how to make is sham goods?

Steve Cronin
 
Oh, fair enough.

I don't know, I am yet to go through my 'power tools' phase, although with an aging Westerly on my list for 2006/07 maybe it is soon to be upon me.

The point is, that the reason we put up with the cheap imports is because we generally end up buying on price. This means that the quality products shoot up in price so that only a few can afford them.

Sorry, I appreciate that I am stating the bleedingly obvious, but it really is that simple.

An Englishman is, after all, a man who sits on his Swedish sofa, eating Italian/Chinese/Indian food, drinking Belgian lager watching American films on his Japenese television whilst complaining about foreigners.
 
It's not so much where things are made, but who is the brand owner. If it says Bosch or Black & Decker or somesuch there is a) a reasonable chance that serious QC procedures have been followed, and b) that if it does go titzup, someone will care enough to do something about it.

OTOH if it says the Itsybitsy Manufacturing Co, PO Box 9983, Gwangzuan, PRC, it's odds on bits will fall off and no one will give a stuff.

Just looked at my mobile phone. Nokia, made in China, still working after 2 years. Apple iBook, assembed in China, going strong.
 
I had a Bosch delta sander. Drive shaft snapped after a few hours use; fitted new shaft (£18.00 plus postage plus work.) One hour's use later the switch burned out; binned the whole thing; bought Chinese copy for £14.00, still going strong.
 
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I had a Bosch delta sander. Drive shaft snapped after a few hours use; fitted new shaft (£18.00 plus postage plus work.) One hour's use later the switch burned out; binned the whole thing; bought Chinese copy for £14.00, still going strong.

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I've had bad experiences with these too
 
Maybe because you can buy so many Chinese ones for the price of the so-called quality article ?

EG : Air-pump for dinghy - Rechargeable at £9.99. instead of LVM non-rechargeable at near 6x the price. (The chinese non-rechargeable was £4.99 btw).

And I am not convinced of the quality argument - as many UK or European based items over recent years I have bought have failed dismally.
 
Our White Knight tumble dryer packed up. It only lasted 15 years. We went out and bought a cheap one.
It's a White Knight. Made in............













England.

Looking forward to another 15 years of daily use.
 
Made in Wales ....

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr but is that the full story ?

I remember a Phillips Music Centre - an expensive one years ago I bought. It had all sorts of problems. So it went back to service centre again and again. I asked one time if I could watch the repair .. I was allowed through to the work-bench to see the repair in progress.

The faults were mechanical - all Phillips manufacture in their European facilities. The electronics had labels like PRC, Korea, Taiwan etc. - but they all worked a treat.

The engineer working on it admitted that he rarely had to sort electronic problem - usually it was mechanical and Phillips own stuff.

I don't mean to blow Phillips or any other Company. But illustrating that many boxes even though labelled "Made in Holland / UK" etc. are often assembled probably from Chinese / Korean etc. components.

It's a bit like the Pub Sign that says "Home-Cooked Food" - it's still pap factory cr*p that is micro-waved before putting in front of you.
 
I've got some old friends and memories made in China, they're certainly lasting...

Will say though, the brand ownership matter is an important one, especially if it incorporates QC. Having worked a fair amount in China, I'd say the general philosophy is build cheaply and replace, or repair instead of maintain if keeping's the only option. Disposable is a favourite design feature.
 
Wales! Eeek!

I'm not racist. If it lasts as long as the last one it could have been made in the Amazon Basin for all I care.
Shoddy stuff does my head in.
 
What about goods that come from Hungary or where ever my new depth and speed sytems are supposed to be manufactured. If I ever get them I will let you know on the quality.
Sorry personal rant as I have been waiting ages for certain marine products and there is a world wide shortage just when I want to go sailing /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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Got a tin of bean sprouts in the cupboard, they are well over two years old, soon be out of date! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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