Why are so many Nordhavn's for sale?

Robin said:
We will be bimbling out to the Bahamas, the Exumas and Abacos, following the same circuit the boat did last year for nearly 4 months, plus up/down the east coast USA either inside or outside of the Intracoastal Waterway.
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Might see you there some time in the next 3-5 yrs:)
 
Robin said:
Please bring large jar of Marmite and bottle of Crabbies!:)
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:D If that's all you miss, you wont be doing bad, anyway, I am sure somebody would take pity on you and give the carrier pigeon a kick.
 
To be able to sell the dream of owning aNordhavn to people who by most yardsticks are wealthy and probably successful busness men is a tribute to the salesmans skills,what pictures did they conjour up that lasted so little.Years ago I was invited aboard the first Inchape 45,the owner a very hard hitting busness man thoughly enjoyed his ship and derived pleasure from close quarter handling.7 TO 8 knots is the perfect speed to enjoy passong scenery I guess the Americans interest palled.
 
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Chrusty1 for many people like me, its simple. I have limited time to go boating due to business and family commitments so, if I want to cruise anywhere beyond the other side of the bay, I need to do it at speed. There are other reasons as well. When you have a young family, you don't want to put them off boating by subjecting them to many hours cooped up in boat. For me, the unspoken agreement I had with my family was that in return for us spending time as a family on the boat, I would get them to destinations in a reasonable amount of time so that we could enjoy ourselves as a family onshore. Then I don't mind admitting that, like many people, I simply enjoy speed. I enjoy fast cars and motorbikes and I enjoy fast motorboating.
Having said that, our youngest is hopefully off to university this year and I hope to take more time off work so that SWMBO and I can do more extended cruising. With more time to get to places, we don't need the speed and neither do we need to spend huge amounts of money on fuel so my next boat will be one capable of comfortable displacement speed cruising. Whether thats a full displacement, semi displacement or even a planing hulled boat, I don't know at this stage but it will be a boat chosen with a different set of priorities to the boats we've had until now
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Hi Mike,

I can see where you are coming from, and I guess the comments I made to Robin on the whole I would say to you. It's always interesting to get other peoples perspective on our hobby, and even though I think that designers of the latest breed of mobos have lost the plot somewhat, at the end of the day, it's each to their own. Like Searush I like to pop into the mobo forum sometimes, there is very often an interesting discussion going on.

C.
 
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Then I don't mind admitting that, like many people, I simply enjoy speed. I enjoy fast cars and motorbikes and I enjoy fast motorboating.
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Oh, so do I!
But I always failed to understand why many boaters associate flybridges capable of cruising somewhere between 20 and 30 kts with "fast" boating.
With such boats, the most challenging and exciting moments for the helmsman are while reversing in a stern to berth with some crosswind... :D
On the water, sensations similar to those offered by a Ducati 848 can only be achieved with a) small boats, and b) capable of 50kts at (the very) least.

Anyway, that aside, it's fascinating how frequently the P/D debate reappears.
Fwiw, I reached my own "final" view on this subject, having started boating at sea many years ago with a 40+ kts express cruiser, and spending now most of my summer onboard a pure displacement trawler.

And my view is that the lack of time is a false problem.
Let's face it, no boat on earth is a fast enough way to go places - planes are.
Life's too short to think of any pleasure boat as a mean of transportation.

I now leave my boat in a nice and warm place, where some of the most beautiful beaches, swimming, snorkeling and diving spots in the Med are all within easy reach - even at 8 or 9 knots.
Sometimes I can and want to spend some days at sea no-stop, but even in those occasions I rarely go very far, in spite of the 1500nm range.
And when I've only got half a day for a swim, I have plenty of choices anyway.
Of course for any given time I could reach different places at 20kts, compared to cruising at less than half that speed.
But the real point is, why? :)

I suppose that's what also many Nordhavn owners realise, sooner or later.
And then there are exceptions of course - the Flanders and the Dashews spring to mind, for instance.
But hey, as you previously said, no accounting for taste...!
 
MapisM said:
Let's face it, no boat on earth is a fast enough way to go places - planes are.
Life's too short to think of any pleasure boat as a mean of transportation.
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In reality it's going to be a very small percentage of those who purchase any kind of expensive, mass produced, "extreme vehicle" who will actually use it at it's full potential, whether it's a dual sport motorcycle crossing continents or circumnavigating the globe in a motorboat.
How many suburban owned super-cars are run at the speed they were designed to travel at, on the streets?

The truth is most people can't handle these machines or use them in the environment for which they were designed.......but still nice to own :).
 
sea-commander said:
Maybe the guys from Nordhavn have read this thread?
They are announcing a 52ft semi-displacement cruiser.
From what can be seen so far, I'd say it is very good looking:
http://www.nordhavn.com/news/newsletter/march2012/52cp.php
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Looks a bit small inside for a 52 footer but the price of under $1m is going to make Grand Banks and Fleming a bit nervous. If they could make a 58 footer with 3 cabins including a midships master and bring it in at under $1.5m, that will make a few others sit up and take notice as well.
Seems like an entirely logical move by Nordhavn. They must know that a fair proportion of their customers would actually be more suited to a SD boat so why not try to serve their needs
 
I wonder if this Nordhavn brief ownership is down to wives. My SWMBO wouldn't be seen dead on one. In fact unless it has a sunpad for her to laze around on and furnishings that loks like they're from Ikea she's wouldn't interested.

If I told her it was capable of crossing the Atlantic she'd say that's great, when are you going!

Pete
 
petem said:
I wonder if this Nordhavn brief ownership is down to wives. My SWMBO wouldn't be seen dead on one. In fact unless it has a sunpad for her to laze around on and furnishings that loks like they're from Ikea she's wouldn't interested.
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Isn't every boat we buy in fact bought by our SWMBO's?:)
 
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