john_morris_uk
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Ain't that the truth.
Which sub 37 ft yacht to cross the North Atlantic in?
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Ain't that the truth.
capnsensible
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GHA
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Stuff never breaks, it's how ya sail em... 
https://www.morganscloud.com/2017/05/29/cruising-its-a-fine-life-if-you-dont-weaken/
https://www.morganscloud.com/2017/05/29/cruising-its-a-fine-life-if-you-dont-weaken/
john_morris_uk
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Stuff never breaks, it's how ya sail em...
https://www.morganscloud.com/2017/05/29/cruising-its-a-fine-life-if-you-dont-weaken/
To be fair I'm also the first to admit that blue water sailing = fixing your boat in nice places.
I try not to break too many things when on passage though.
(And if I'm honest, the generator battery failed between St Thomas and Key West, but that was old age and it wasn't my boat!)
GHA
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Indeed. Ive only hit a pilot whale so it just stopped the boat (quickly) but no damage, luckily. You are right with fishermen losing gear, but been mostly lucky with that. Saw a big float a few weeks ago half way to Marquesas but was daylight.
Between Canaries and Cape Verdes there is a weather buoy. It doinged off the beam of our Moody around 0200. Surprised!
Got tangled with pot buoys once near Bembridge, IOW and off N. Spain near Finnisterre.
Other than those times, its been more about breakages. Stuff that maintainence cant resolve. Boom parting from mast on a Jenneau 45 mid Atlantic. Sails blowing out in places (various). Exhausts blowing out on boats! Warrior 40 mid Atlantic. My Moody, one day out of St Maarten on a return trip.
I reckon its like a sales rep in a car. Breakdowns, accidents, they see em all. I dick about on boats for a living, so get the same thing, floaty. It does not put me off!
As I mentioned before, whichever ocean, its probably not much more than 3 weeks, so dont panic!
Think I've got off relatively lightly, never anything disastrous. Hopeless engine for many years, packed in leaving Suriname so rather than trying to source bits there sailed up to Trini. Surprising the amount of boats arriving engineless, Brazil it must have been 1/4 or 1/3 coming up from SA arrived with an engine to fix. Well maintained cruising boats, not some strays in bathtubs. Not much shiny new white plastic down there, get up to the Carib to see lots of those.
Bust gooseneck which was welded up for a Euro by a local behind the beach in Dakar still going strong years later.
Seeing a mess of nets disappearing astern does make you rather glad of a rudder and prop well out of the way though, who's in a hurry...
Each to their own, whatever floats yer boat
GHA
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Absolutely
), sail conservatively and a tough old boat, gets there and no exotic bits to source in some backstreet shacks. Plus yu don't spend anything on passage, why the rush to get there a day or 3 sooner. Works for me anyway. There is a new generation of young YouTube vLoggers out there cruising the oceans, they don't get distracted by the writings of the Pardeys or Hiscocks. They just get out there and do it in yacht designs that some here would dismiss as coastal caravans.
Take La Vagabonde on YouTube. A youngish Aus couple with limited sailing experience have got from Italy to New Zealand via the Pacific. They did this in an ex. charter Beneteau that seems to have few upgrades for ocean voyaging. The most important equipment for ocean sailing is a healthy body and a brain with above average horsepower that can figure out how to wriggle out of a spot of bother.
thecommander
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Let's be honest, LVB were extremely lucky with their ocean crossings. The amount of times you saw them alone on watch at night, not clipped on, no life jackets, no PLBs!! I don't know if Ozzies are more laid back when it comes to stuff like this, but if I were to cross an Ocean I'd want my YM Ocean for sure! I'm surprised Outremer haven't requested they do YM for insurance purposes cause it's like giving an F1 car to a school boy and saying there ya go, travel round Europe in that!
Robin
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OMG. IF you think having a piece of paper is the answer, best stay at home. No PLB or LJ in sight, whatever next. The boating lake in Blackpool is good I hear if you have a skeg mounted rudder on the encapsulated keel bath toy.
geem
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+1AbsolutelyDon't mind being a bit slower or not getting to within a degree of the wind (upwind is a planning error cruising
alant
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Why, would you need a YM Ocean before you attempt an ocean crossing?
thecommander
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Experience, mileage, peace of mind, cheaper insurance perhaps? To not even do a Sea survival course seems madness!
Robin
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You can get ravel insurance on a 747 transat, paper quals are OK but there are many that have more real time experience in their little finger than Johnny come lately gained from a classroom and Solent trip or two in summer calms.
lw395
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You need an ocean crossing to get YM Ocean.....
Robin
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You mean doing it on a 747 or 777 doesn't count?, bugger!
I thought it entailed a 500 mile offshore passage with subsequent submission of sights and logbook calculations etc? But then I favour the 747 option so may be wrong. :highly_amused:
alant
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What "experience", what "piece of mind"?
You have to do an ocean crossing to get any experience of crossing an ocean.
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alant
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Exactly, unless he is talking about the classroom version.
sjdtuk
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Holman and Pye Hustler
roblpm
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Just posted on the wrong thread!! Hope you are well!
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wully1
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Older Beneteau’s are fine. ‘Modern’ ones not so..
Im put off by the 35S5 coach roof windows otherwise I’d have bought one - tough boats that sail well. Nice well sorted one for sale just north of Oban just now...
Im put off by the 35S5 coach roof windows otherwise I’d have bought one - tough boats that sail well. Nice well sorted one for sale just north of Oban just now...