which boat to aim for?

Zanziba

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Grunter,

beware that once you live on a boat and establish some comfort features like shore power and belongings strewn around, it becomes a bit of a chore to actually go sailing !

I would agree to a certain extent with this staement but it really depends on how tidy you are. I keep my yacht pretty spotless inside and everything in lockers so the additional things that need to be done when going sailing are:

a) Chuck anything loose down into the pilot bunk, this usually just means the guitar.

b) Tie the fridge closed.

c) Put the laptop into it's case and put in the forepeak bed.

d) Remove the mirriad bottles of pop, wine etc. from next to the fridge and stow in a locker.

That's about it really for me. Washing up maybe needs doing. Biggest things that are stopping me sailing are:

1) Lack of experience means I am a fair weather sailor at the moment.

2) I am only on the yacht every other weekend due to family commitments.

3) I need a crew member on board and don't always have one handy.

4) Fleetwood only opens gates up to 1.5 hours either side of tide (Much less on a neaps) so often the times are in teh dark... I still haven't managed to get the steaming light working.

Saying this I have managed to get out 3 times since I moved aboard which is about 1/month.

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Someone posted about damp on your yacht. I found things feeling damp after I moved in and the nights got colder. I bought a dehhumidfier from Comet for £110. It filled about 2 litres every few hours for the first few days. It is now bone dry all the time, it's like it doesn't work. I have no damp issues at all so I am guessing that is why the dehumidifier never finds a drop. Not sure if it is helped by the blow heater on 24/7 so the yacht is nice and warm all the time?
 
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Thankyou for the sound advice guys, and big congrats to Z for achieving the goal ahead of time. I will be paying close attention to your thread of success.

Been away for awhile, had a difficult breakup to deal with and starting again meant that I was in no position to be giving thoughts to owning a boat. :(

However I have managed to drag myself back into the black, I am earning and more importantly saving..

I have realised that I dont know enough about actual sailing to make an informed decision.. so I am going to do something about that first, then see if I have enough saved to pick up a winter bargain.

not exactly back on track, but I can at least allow myself the luxury of the dream again.:)
 

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Thankyou for the sound advice guys, and big congrats to Z for achieving the goal ahead of time. I will be paying close attention to your thread of success.

Been away for awhile, had a difficult breakup to deal with and starting again meant that I was in no position to be giving thoughts to owning a boat. :(

However I have managed to drag myself back into the black, I am earning and more importantly saving..

I have realised that I dont know enough about actual sailing to make an informed decision.. so I am going to do something about that first, then see if I have enough saved to pick up a winter bargain.

not exactly back on track, but I can at least allow myself the luxury of the dream again.:)

I'd say get yourself something cheap & cheerful but that doesn't require any major expenditure right at the start, i.e. hull fundamentally sound, serviceable sails, engine that runs OK, bunk cushions you can live with, standing rigging that's not 40 years old. The sooner you move aboard the sooner you'll be able to start saving more (if you're having to pay expensive private rents especially) and start learning to sail. £10k is more than enough to get you started, can do it on less if needs be, there's bargains to be had if you look around and good luck...:)
 

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I just wish I still had 10k to get started..:(

never mind, starting at the bottom means that I will appreciate what I end up with far more than if I just had cash to throw at it..

First steps have been taken this week, I have joined the local sailing club and got in touch with a boat owning mate of mine who is going to show me the basics as soon as the alignment of tide, time off and weather occurs.

Also going to go for a look around some boats up for sale so he can show me what things to be looking out for.
 

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Well, maybe I was getting ahead of myself a bit.. but thought I could purchase something more like a weekender to learn to sail and the pleasures / pitfalls of ownership.

I spotted this a few days ago and was due to go see it this morning, However someone got there first.. :mad: Its probably just as well, it would have been a stretch for me just now. I have someone coming to look at my motorbike tomorrow so hopefully there will be some extra cash to put in the pot.

At least I have learned a lot about the model, the engine and researching the actual craft for sale. I managed to get a copy of the last survey too, which was interesting to read as I have not seen one before and it gave a good indication of the things that I should be looking at.

Tomorrow is booked as an ebay day, going to see how many things I can get listed to keep that pot growing..
 

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Here, wee boat that looks as if it's been well kept, good headroom, cheap berthing, could you live on something as small as that? I started with a 30ft Jeanneau (loads of room), now 27ft Vega, smaller but more practical and more comfortable for me. I now know I could live on that little boat. It does help a lot if you aren't too big/tall though...:)
 

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I agree with the 'not being tall' bit, I'm 5'9" and small boats seem comfy to me compared to how they appear to blokes over 6' !

I doubt I could put up with the sailing performance of a Virgo Voyager despite what our respected friend Old Glow In The Deeps says, but I did spend a few weeks living on a 22' boat ( guess which type ! ) in mid winter at a marina, there were 3 of us, self, girlfriend and chum.

We had inches of snow on deck at one point, but the thing which got us, despite having shore power and the 'dry' heat of an electric fan, was bronchial snags, we developed quite nasty chest bugs - presumably via the condensation.
 

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That one in cardiff is a little small, but I will keep an eye on it.
I was only looking at a smaller boat that was really cheap so that I could do it up while learning to sail on a friends boat. unfortunately (where boat selection is concerned) I am over 6ft. I thought that I would learn more about what I would really need to liveaboard rather than dream up a wishlist..

because then I get unrealistic thoughts like the westerly vulcan.. and yes I know it probably doesnt sail that well, but if I could afford one then I would assume that I would not be in any rush to get anywhere..

That centaur :eek:.. really cheap.. sale pending though,

not my first choice, but at that price..
 
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